Another reason to build your own cloud storage

[aeric]

 

[Magma]

First Thing - I am doing when installing Windows for me and for my clients is to use Local Accounts, disable OneDrive... only if the user ask me to enable onedrive then enable it... I know that this seems oldschool... but I ve stucked in Y2K

Best for personal storage are NAS... but you must be careful / secure your network / update your nasbox (synology have a good system)

Creating Cloud Storage with VPS is also the same thing using OneDrive GoogleDrive... not the best option... nextcloud is a nice open source... but when "your files" are in one Host X named... you will always unprotected...

One good option to compress your personal files with a good password then upload them or use E2E encryption but all these ideas take time...

 

[aeric]

Evil company can still steal our data even we paid them.
My point is to use the unused storage that we paid for in the VPS instead of paying another services. Why waste it?

 

[Magma]

Evil company can still steal our data even we paid them.
My point is to use the unused storage that we paid for in the VPS instead of paying another services. Why waste it?

...not bad idea... but as you know vps are hosted at shared servers and you never know if "admin-of-host/company" what will do with your files...

but if using special client and special server side app - With end to end protection / it is someway better... (not the best... but it is a protection)

 

[aeric]

...not bad idea... but as you know vps are hosted at shared servers and you never know if "admin-of-host/company" what will do with your files...

but if using special client and special server side app - With end to end protection / it is someway better... (not the best... but it is a protection)

I get your idea.
Encryption feature can be added.

 

[Magma]

Another thing you must check - if your VPS has limitation at traffic/bandwidth... sometimes at big backups you can exceed daily limit / month limit

 

[aeric]

Another thing you must check - if your VPS has limitation at traffic/bandwidth... sometimes at big backups you can exceed daily limit / month limit

Ya, I see the usage is too low and wasted every day.
That's why I try to optimize the usage.

 

[Sagenut]

Evil company can still steal our data even we paid them.
My point is to use the unused storage that we paid for in the VPS instead of paying another services. Why waste it?

Do you trust your VPS so much?
Or any other cloud space service.

 

[aeric]

Do you trust your VPS so much?

Same as I don't trust Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, GitHub or any Cloud storage providers.
But the free providers have very limited quota.

 

[aeric]

By the way, I just want to backup some B4X projects in a cheap and convenient way.
It is better to run a NAS locally but I don't want to waste electricity.

 

[Sagenut]

Sadly all of these services, included VPS and so on, will never be totally safe.
And we all know this.
They could sell your data, being hacked, stealed, the service itself could be ceased (hopefully not during the night without previous advice), hardware failure and so on.
Just to be clear, I agree with your idea to use something not so popular and maybe with a layer created by ourselves.
Even if our layer could be the weak point of the system.

 

[LucaMs]

The most commonly used and cheapest solution is:

Don't do any backups and pray.

(I suspect this isn't 100% effective )

 

[hatzisn]

One good option to compress your personal files with a good password then upload them or use E2E encryption but all these ideas take time...

I always do this password thing before backing up my files on-line.

 

[hatzisn]

The most commonly used and cheapest solution is:

Don't do any backups and pray.

(I suspect this isn't 100% effective )

What about the atheists? What do they do?

 

[hatzisn]

Do you trust your VPS so much?
Or any other cloud space service.

I suppose that the VPS providers have teams allocated for creating backups in case something happens.

 

[Magma]

I suppose that the VPS providers have teams allocated for creating backups in case something happens.

as I understant... @Sagenut means - for personal files... not for backups (in many cases, hosting companies also not taking backups - is an extra option, and many times there are a lot of h/w failures)

 

[hatzisn]

as I understant... @Sagenut means - for personal files... not for backups (in many cases, hosting companies also not taking backups - is an extra option, and many times there are a lot of h/w failures)

No, what I mean is that they make backups in case of a hardware failure (without you knowing that) and they sell it also to you as an extra feature (with you knowing that this time if you select it). This is what happens as I have understood due to a hardware failure in my VPS provider...

 

[aeric]

Safe in the context of
1. Data theft
2. Data corrupted

 

[QSerg]

Why do you ever need to have so called "cloud"? There are only two reasons - be able to access your data from anywhere and have remote back-up. So setup NAS in remote place and you are done with both benefits and without unexpected pitfalls.

 

[aeric]

Why do you ever need to have so called "cloud"? There are only two reasons - be able to access your data from anywhere and have remote back-up. So setup NAS in remote place and you are done with both benefits and without unexpected pitfalls.

Ya, I don't need it to be a real cloud solution.
Just a fancy word or online hosting that serve the purpose.