Any suggestion about a Oximeter (preferably with Bluetooth or any other Api)

DonManfred

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To control my nightly Oxygen-Level (i am a Sleep-Apnea patient) i would like buy a Oximeter to record the Level while i am sleeping.

Is there anyone who can suggest a specific hardware? I would like to read your suggestion and have a look at the item.

I would like one which i can listen to with my device. Using Bluetooth or something like that. So i am able to read the Oxygen level, create a alarm it the level reaches a specific value or something like that.

This is one i found: https://ihealthlabs.eu/de/14-online-oximeter-ihealth-air.html

Any suggestion/tips/hints/devicelink is highly welcome

Thank you.
 

canalrun

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Do you know the Oximeter hardware you would like to use?

If not, a couple of years ago some of the major smart/fitness watch manufacturers were making noise about including oximeter's in their units. Maybe by now they have come out with versions that have that sensor. I no longer follow them closely.

They may also have Bluetooth or Wi-Fi interfaces to connect to the watch.

In the past I have used watches for other types of data collection.
 

DonManfred

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Do you know the Oximeter hardware you would like to use?
No, not really. I just know (from my visists at the doctor) that i should monitor the SpO2 Level.
In the past I have used watches for other types of data collection.
I am using a FitBit Charge 3 as of now. Fo time, spep-counter and blood-pressure it is good. i have full control over the pressure.

But it is not suiteable for SpO2.
 

rabbitBUSH

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I have an iHealth device to monitor something else which has bluetooth to a download app which works well for looking on the phone.

no bluetooth but got USB:
https://www.nonin.com/products/3150-usb/

you might glean something from this although its about ICU center usage : (but maybe if you hunt Philips) references to Philips equipment and references on last page:
https://www.aci.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/306329/liverpoolSpO2_Monitoring.pdf

some place with a sensor catalogue :
https://www.hamilton-medical.com/en...tml#tags=7c3df403-35c3-42ac-a798-0b7fea9e8376

https://github.com/zh2x/SpO2-Bluetooth-for-Android

https://www.nonin.com/products/3230/ [actually philips i think]

these two sort of go together:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32210899/bluetooth-pulse-oximeter
https://www.instructables.com/howto/pulse+oximeter

but having worked in a place where I had to develop a few things like this including measuring oxygen output from runners, I would not recommend building your own without strong input from research or medical practitioners. well, not if life and limb could depend on it......
 

AllanH

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Manfred

First, many thanks for all your contributions to 4BX.
I'm surprised your doctor has advised you to measure your SpO2 levels as these will be normal during waking time and the only way to see if they dip in your sleep is to have a continuous monitor all night. The finger one you gave a link to auto-off's after 8s to save battery. They are fine for intermittent checks in patients with acute or chronic lung problems.
There are sleep apnoea sats machines available for around £100 on Amazon that link to smartphones and some vibrate the finger probe if your sats drop.
Your sats drop as a rather late event when you have an apnoeic episode - ie just before you are roused from slumber to shift position! So all the vibration is doing is waking you very slightly earlier and perhaps waking you more than the apnoea would. You will still have a disturbed night's sleep and be tired in the morning.
There is one I've seen on ebay that measures breathing from the nose that might be a bit better as a diagnosis/monitoring tool although it may not detect mouth breathing.
The polysomnography you might have had to diagnose the condition is quite complex. The best ones are done in a hospital environment and measure brain waves, heart rate, breathing patterns, chest movement, O2, CO2, limb movement, sound, etc. Simpler home testing kits provided by hospitals still measure more than just your sats.
There are guidelines to the minimum spec for home polysomnography - it must record airflow, respiratory effort, and blood oxygenation.
The key to diagnosing (and monitoring treatment) is the number of apnoea-hypopnoea episodes per night - ie how often you stop breathing which may or may not cause a drop in sats.
See https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesse...e-sleep-apnoea#about-obstructive-sleep-apnoea for more details.

Having said that, there are studies where they have used high resolution sats probes to guide therapy.
See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6650535/
The paper discusses why their probe was more relevant than a standard probe in picking up the equivalent of an apnoea-hypopnoea event.

If you want to buy one, I'm sure it would be quite interesting but I would caution there are risks.
I wouldn't make one other than for the fun of it as it may not be calibrated.
I'm a cardiologist and see more and more people bringing in their iPhone heart rate readings or similar. Some are useful but a lot are quite inaccurate - perhaps by 20-30 beats/min. Some of these gadgets may be more harmful if it gets you worried or obsessive about the numbers.

NB I'm not a sleep apnoea expert & the above is not medical advice. Just my opinion as a techie doctor.
Another good paper on this technology is https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5883394/
And a great book on sleeping heath is "Why We Sleep: The New Science of Sleep and Dreams" by Matthew Walker.

Allan
 

rabbitBUSH

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I'm a cardiologist and see more and more people bringing in their iPhone heart rate readings or similar.

Gee I was wondering along the way - I am sure that @DonManfred will appreciate this - and thanks, it supports what I said at the end of #5 -> Don't do this kind of stuff without serious consideration with a Big S, there's a reason these devices are so expensive on the market (£100 on Amazon) would be beyond me ...

I often look here for information : Mayo Clinic

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...syc-20352090&usg=AOvVaw219LQJjJSEcgQe9YBem1nR

This last one is just because I wonder about this sort of stuff :
Uvulopalatopharyngoplasty -> Somebody got paid! Put that one in the Spelling Bee final!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19720777
 

DonManfred

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I'm surprised your doctor has advised you to measure your SpO2 levels
no, he didn´t.

It is just me who want to monitor them. There are days where i feel uncomfortable with the machine. Others not.
I want to monitor the days i have problem with it.

to see if they dip in your sleep is to have a continuous monitor all night
that´s my intention... But after reading all the answers i guess i need to investigate some serious $ for a good hardware which can monitor along the hole night.

The finger one you gave a link to auto-off's after 8s to save battery
yes, i found out already too.

Thank you for your detailed Answer! Much appreciated
 
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