this is really depressing news, sarah, is b4a really so different from b4ppc? ...& tougher u say? I hopped on to the ship rather late (got b4ppc last month) & am v happy developing applications for personal use with b4ppc. Its dam easy to write in b4ppc, i can really write code so fast on it! But now that winmo is dead i was planning to rewrite the code on b4a somewhere next yr. i was hoping b4a wud be similar to b4ppc (not seen any b4a code yet). But i guess ill be stuck wen i try to shift. Any way i do plan to have a peek at the demo version of b4a soon to get the hang of it. Well we can only hope that Erel manages to make b4a as easy as b4ppc soon. Its soon going to become very difficult to get good winmo handsets, win7 not doing as well as it was hoped, so we will all have to shift to android. We will just have to depend on Erel or get stuck.