Basic4Android vs DarkBasic ?!

Johnmcenroy · Jun 4, 2013

Hello
Sorry that i post here. But I found an interesting program by GameCreators - App Game Kit (uses DarkBasic similar to VisualBasic 6.0). But the main purpose of it - is to develop games (Windows, MacOs, iOS, Android, BlackBerry).There are a lot of examples if you download trial. It looks very similar to B4A. Maybe there are some ideas or what else useful to impement here . Just interesting to compare them.

Thanks

agraham · Jun 4, 2013

My God, that's a complicated way of making an Android application Preparing the Eclipse IDE and AGK Player project :sign0137:

Johnmcenroy · Jun 4, 2013

Thanks for info.
Yes it is very complicated and strange. I want to find some more simple way to create 2D games , maybe must look into Gideros Mobile so .

agraham said:
My God, that's a complicated way of making an Android application Preparing the Eclipse IDE and AGK Player project :sign0137:

Johnmcenroy · Jun 4, 2013

Gideros need also eclipse but more simple there. So the best thing is to have IntelliJ IDEA with LUA game engine It is a pity that for now it is not very simple to write games in B4A or maybe I didn't read carefully

Erel · Jun 5, 2013

There are another two libraries that you need to check:
GameView - Create 2D Android games - Part I
[Lib] Accelerated surface

latch · Jun 5, 2013

A game isn't going to be simple in any language because you have to have the logic and math driving it and deal with every little detail. Beside that, just because it's hard doesn't mean its not worth doing.

I like b4a and accelerated surface. I whipped up Hail of Gunfire in less than 3 weeks using those.

Johnmcenroy · Jun 5, 2013

Thanks Erel for info

Erel said:
There are another two libraries that you need to check:
GameView - Create 2D Android games - Part I
[Lib] Accelerated surface

Johnmcenroy · Jun 5, 2013

Woderful game. Thanks for sharing.
What I mean about simplicity is that using full featured game engine (Box2D , Particles , Collisions and so on) is far more simple that coding directly on OpenGL.

latch said:
A game isn't going to be simple in any language because you have to have the logic and math driving it and deal with every little detail. Beside that, just because it's hard doesn't mean its not worth doing.

I like b4a and accelerated surface. I whipped up Hail of Gunfire in less than 3 weeks using those.

Informatix · Jun 5, 2013

Johnmcenroy said:
Woderful game. Thanks for sharing.
What I mean about simplicity is that using full featured game engine (Box2D , Particles , Collisions and so on) is far more simple that coding directly on OpenGL.

In your list, there are two missing game engines that you could try: Unity and EMO (my favourite because it is free, simple and efficient).

Johnmcenroy · Jun 5, 2013

Thanks for sharing info. Unity is more 3D , so as Shiva , Unigine , Unreal.
About EMO the first time I hear. Looks very interesting.

Informatix said:
In your list, there are two missing game engines that you could try: Unity and EMO (my favourite because it is free, simple and efficient).

Informatix · Jun 5, 2013

The source code of EMO is no longer maintained by his original author, so you should use this fork:
https://github.com/teddBroiler/emo-framework-experiment/wiki/Additional-Features

Johnmcenroy · Jun 5, 2013

Ok, Thank you. Really impressive. Didn't find anything sooner about it. So as about Gideros Mobile there is no a lot of info also.

Informatix said:
The source code of EMO is no longer maintained by his original author, so you should use this fork:
https://github.com/teddBroiler/emo-framework-experiment/wiki/Additional-Features

walterf25 · Jun 5, 2013

Thanks

Hey guys, thanks for providing all this different names of different frameworks, I've checked out a few of them and i'm giving emo a try, it looks very easy to use, I have been thinking about buying corona SDK to port some of my android apps to iphone. Gideros is free and is the same thing as corona SDK, the only and big difference is that is free, wow, i'm definitely giving this a try, thanks all.

cheers,
Walter

Johnmcenroy · Jun 5, 2013

I read a lot about these engines last days and it seems that Gideros is far more faster than Corona SDK. With Gideros you can do live coding with ZeroBrane Studio and also Gideros has Gideros Android Player to view instantly your game through wifi on Android , same for iOS , also Gideros exports projects into Eclipse or xCode so you can compile offline. and Corona SDK compiles on servers. Also take a look at MOAI - it maybe the most powerful of all and completely free. Double Fine Adventure by Tim Schafer is made with MOAI. Yes Emo is very interesting. I didn't know about it.

walterf25 said:
Hey guys, thanks for providing all this different names of different frameworks, I've checked out a few of them and i'm giving emo a try, it looks very easy to use, I have been thinking about buying corona SDK to port some of my android apps to iphone. Gideros is free and is the same thing as corona SDK, the only and big difference is that is free, wow, i'm definitely giving this a try, thanks all.

cheers,
Walter

AlDim · Jun 6, 2013

Long time ago i was working with game maker. I check it and now he can make games for many platforms with the same source. I think that it would also be on the list. Now cause i am checking game engines, unity is the best by far (until now from my checkings) cause its a solid package that have it all, but it cost too much....
Game maker should be on the list also and i will check more engines to give information.

Johnmcenroy · Jun 6, 2013

Game Maker is great but is more visual tool for design games. Among them also great: Construct 2 , Stencyl , GameSalad , Multimedia Fusion 2.

AlDim said:
Long time ago i was working with game maker. I check it and now he can make games for many platforms with the same source. I think that it would also be on the list. Now cause i am checking game engines, unity is the best by far (until now from my checkings) cause its a solid package that have it all, but it cost too much....
Game maker should be on the list also and i will check more engines to give information.

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