Designer Script - calling B4X code

Erel · Jun 12, 2022

This feature will be included in the next version of B4X. It allows calling B4X code from the designer script. This will allow to extend the designer with all kinds of useful utilities.
Do note that the code will not run at design time.

The designer script for the above example:

B4X:

'Panel, max size, min gap
DesignerUtils.SpreadControlsHorizontally(Pane1, 300dip, 20dip)
'Panel, row height
DesignerUtils.HorizontalFlow(Pane2, 60dip)

The B4X code, which can be packaged as a b4xlib:

B4X:

'Panel, MaxSize, MinGap
Public Sub SpreadControlsHorizontally (DesignerArgs As DesignerArgs)
    Dim Panel As B4XView = DesignerArgs.GetViewFromArgs(0)
    Dim MaxSize As Int = DesignerArgs.Arguments(1)
    Dim MinGap As Int = DesignerArgs.Arguments(2)
    Dim AllWidth As Int = Panel.Width
    Dim w As Int = Min(AllWidth / Panel.NumberOfViews - MinGap, MaxSize)
    Dim gap As Int = (AllWidth - Panel.NumberOfViews * w) / Panel.NumberOfViews
    For i = 0 To Panel.NumberOfViews - 1
        Dim v As B4XView = Panel.GetView(i)
        v.SetLayoutAnimated(0, (i + 0.5) * gap + i * w, v.Top, w, v.Height)
    Next
End Sub

'Panel, RowHeight
Public Sub HorizontalFlow (DesignerArgs As DesignerArgs)
    Dim panel As B4XView = DesignerArgs.GetViewFromArgs(0)
    Dim RowHeight As Int = DesignerArgs.Arguments(1)
    Dim gap As Int = 5dip
    Dim x As Int = gap
    Dim y As Int = gap
    For i = 0 To panel.NumberOfViews - 1
        Dim v As B4XView = panel.GetView(i)
        If x > gap And x + v.Width > panel.Width - gap Then
            x = gap
            y = y + RowHeight
        End If
        v.Left = x
        v.Top = y
        x = x + v.Width + gap
    Next
End Sub

AnandGupta · Jun 12, 2022

It is becoming very difficult to program in other programing language ide.

The features of b4x is now way above any other ide I use. ?

I have to find a way to program in xbase++ through b4x now.

udg · Jun 13, 2022

This feature will be included in the next version of B4X

So, will it available on all the platforms? Great!
Can you show (or describe) how the Designer will know about our DesignerUtils b4xlib (or even some simple code in one of our modules)?
The easiest solution that comes to my mind is that DesignerUtils will be a "reserved" name and the Designer will look for a module or lib named like that. But a more general MyModule.MySub syntax recognized by the designer parser will work even better.

Another question: will the designer script accept a sequence like scriptcode-calltoexternalcode-scriptcode? In other words, will the script be able to make use of values and items produced by the external code? From your demo code it looks there's a one-way only parameters passing (from script to code).

Anyway, thank you very much for this new toy..ehmm..feature

Erel · Jun 13, 2022

udg said:
Can you show (or describe) how the Designer will know about our DesignerUtils b4xlib (or even some simple code in one of our modules)?
The easiest solution that comes to my mind is that DesignerUtils will be a "reserved" name and the Designer will look for a module or lib named like that. But a more general MyModule.MySub syntax recognized by the designer parser will work even better.

Any static module with a sub that matches the expected signature will work.

udg said:
Another question: will the designer script accept a sequence like scriptcode-calltoexternalcode-scriptcode? In other words, will the script be able to make use of values and items produced by the external code? From your demo code it looks there's a one-way only parameters passing (from script to code).

Yes, the B4X sub can return a simple value.

Hamied Abou Hulaikah · Jun 13, 2022

Thank you ..
I was want to request this wish earlier, but I found myself embarrassed from @Erel , we request everything and he did it.

LucaMs · Jun 13, 2022

I am already waiting; for the official B4XDesignerUtils library too, which I suppose has already been developed

ilan · Jun 14, 2022

it says that it is a b4x feature but i only see it being used in b4j since it only makes sense in a desktop app where you can resize the window.
what would be the benefit of calling it from the designer and not from the _resize event?

thanx

jahswant · Jun 14, 2022

ilan said:
it says that it is a b4x feature but i only see it being used in b4j since it only makes sense in a desktop app where you can resize the window.
what would be the benefit of calling it from the designer and not from the _resize event?

thanx

I think you can use it to create a single layout that perfectly adapts on Tablets and Phones without necessarily having the eye view.
Something like this :

AnandGupta · Jun 14, 2022

jahswant said:
I think you can use it to create a single layout that perfectly adapts on Tablets and Phones without necessarily having the eye view.
Something like this :
View attachment 130393

This is long throw. Views have changed here, like layout changed.
Let us wait for Erel to throw light on it.

LucaMs · Jun 14, 2022

ilan said:
it says that it is a b4x feature but i only see it being used in b4j since it only makes sense in a desktop app where you can resize the window.
what would be the benefit of calling it from the designer and not from the _resize event?

thanx

The example is very indicative: align, correctly space N Views; how many times have you (we) had to do this with the internal script? If the source code was in your own library, you would get it with only one line in the script.

That said, if that functionality, spacing, were already part of the Designer (as requested in the past) it would be even better.

Erel · Jun 14, 2022

ilan said:
it says that it is a b4x feature but i only see it being used in b4j since it only makes sense in a desktop app where you can resize the window.

Check the example on the very first post. It is relevant with B4A / B4i exactly as it is relevant with B4J.
It is relevant whenever your app can run on more than a single screen size.

The second point about the resize event cannot be disputed. You can do everything from the resize event. You can ask why use the designer script at all.

The new external calls feature allows us to make the designer script much more powerful.
The fact that you have a layout file that holds the views properties and everything else related to the layout of these views, means that you have much better encapsulation. A single layout file that you can load in million places and it will "automatically" adopt to the parent size. This is a big thing.

It will be easier to answer in a few months from now

Erel · Jun 14, 2022

LucaMs said:
That said, if that functionality, spacing, were already part of the Designer (as requested in the past) it would be even better.

Not really. There are too many small details and different use cases to make it useful without adding many parameters, and making it too complex to use.
This is why it was never implemented as an internal feature.

With the external call feature developers can modify the behavior as they need.

Alexander Stolte · Jun 14, 2022

Erel said:
It will be easier to answer in a few months from now

I am curious ?

LucaMs · Jun 14, 2022

Erel said:
Not really. There are too many small details and different use cases to make it useful without adding many parameters, and making it too complex to use.
This is why it was never implemented as an internal feature.

With the external call feature developers can modify the behavior as they need.

That new feature is certainly "powerful", very useful and I'm sure we will realize it.

The fact remains that some things are very common, frequent, just that of aligning vertically / horizontally is one of them. This and others are usually provided with other designers.

Anyway, I think it will be enough to develop an official library (B4XLib), with just these basic functionalities.

Erel · Jun 14, 2022

LucaMs said:
Anyway, I think it will be enough to develop an official library (B4XLib), with just these basic functionalities.

This is also the way I see it.

ilan · Jun 14, 2022

jahswant said:
I think you can use it to create a single layout that perfectly adapts on Tablets and Phones without necessarily having the eye view.
Something like this :
View attachment 130393

i have difficulties seeing how this result can be done more easier with the new feature than using different variants instead or different layout files for different variants.
anyway, i am sure the new feature can be useful in some specific cases and it gives us now more control from the designer directly. i guess time will make it more understandable.

Erel said:
You can ask why use the designer script at all.

designer script is very important. i use it in every app. so the resize event will never take the place of the designer script at least not for me.

Erel said:
A single layout file that you can load in million places and it will "automatically" adopt to the parent size. This is a big thing.

i agree but this is also very dangerous. in your example it can ruin the whole app if the views are sent to next row if the screen resized. i know it is just an example of showing the idea but no one would want to have such a layout:

again, i am not complaining. i am happy for every new feature in b4x just need to understand how to use effeciently

AnandGupta · Jun 14, 2022

ilan said:
just need to understand how to use effeciently

It will be a surprise from Erel.

Erel · Jun 14, 2022

ilan said:
i agree but this is also very dangerous. in your example it can ruin the whole app if the views are sent to next row if the screen resized. i know it is just an example of showing the idea but no one would want to have such a layout:

I'm giving you tools. It is up for the developer to use them in the correct place.

ilan said:
i am happy for every new feature in b4x just need to understand how to use effeciently

Understanding how to use any feature efficiently requires time. For all of us. Don't worry

ilan · Jun 14, 2022

Erel said:
I'm giving you tools. It is up for the developer to use them in the correct place.

and you are doing it very well. ? like the awesome XLUtils / jPOI 5 and many many other tools.

btw. we are really missing a 3d game engine. if you have time between breakfast and lunch could you only think about it

just found jMonkeyEngine that looks really interesting and is written in JAVA.

Documentation: https://wiki.jmonkeyengine.org/docs/3.4/documentation.html

Erel · Jun 15, 2022

iOS:

Android:

Desktop:

Almost complete code:

B4X:

Private Sub B4XPage_Created (Root1 As B4XView)
    Root = Root1
    Root.LoadLayout("MainPage")
    For i = 1 To 100
        Dim p As B4XView = xui.CreatePanel("")
        p.SetLayoutAnimated(0, 0, 0, Root.Width, 200dip)
        p.LoadLayout("Item")
        CustomListView1.Add(p, "")
    Next
End Sub

And designer script:

B4X:

DDD.SpreadControlsHorizontally(Pane1, 200dip, 5dip)
DDD.SetText(Button1, "Sunday", "Sun", "Su", "S")
DDD.SetText(Button2, "Monday", "Mon", "Mo", "M")
DDD.SetText(Button3, "Tuesday", "Tue", "Tu", "T")
DDD.SetText(Button4, "Wednesday", "Wed", "We", "W")
DDD.SetText(Button5, "Thurdsay", "Thu", "Th", "T")
DDD.SetText(Button6, "Friday", "Fri", "Fr", "F")
DDD.SetText(Button7, "Saturday", "Sat", "Sa", "S")

Now try to do everything in the the resize event (which doesn't exist in B4A) and you will end up writing several pages of complex code.
And this is a simple case where all items are from the same type. This is of course not necessary.

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