Designtools vs. build in Visual Designer

I really need a tool for designing pages instead of build in Visual Designer.

Are any having good ideas for WYSIGWYG design tools for b4x ?

Karsten Madsen said:

I really need a tool for designing pages instead of build in Visual Designer.

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Build in Visual Designer is best for designing 'pages' screen of both Mobile and Desktop.
What is your requirement that is not available in 'build in Visual Designer' ? Please explain.

Karsten Madsen said:

I really need a tool for designing pages instead of build in Visual Designer.

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Why, what's wrong with the built-in designer, why don't you like using it???

Karsten Madsen said:

Are any having good ideas for WYSIGWYG design tools for b4x ?

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Yes, use the built-in designer.

If you're having issues with designing your layouts, then I suggest that you're doing something fundamentally wrong...

Newbie here. I am still looking at adopting B4X into my environment.

In my opinion the one 'tool' that would be most helpful (for me) would having the ability to print form layouts for reference. The print out would be for each page showing the control name. If a table is on the page. It would print column details. So if you had 4 pages on a form. The printout would have 4 pages.

In my 35+ years of programming - I have looked at numerous development systems and they ALL lack this feature. The closest I have seen is a tool called DR Explain. However it will not show hidden controls and table details (like hidden columns). Personally it seems like I spend most time documenting form layouts vs database layout, and actual code.

Just my thoughts

dw_b4x said:

Personally it seems like I spend most time documenting form layouts vs database layout,

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It is good that one should document, and many of us do it. Generally the form layouts screen-shots are enough as that contain both label and field next to each other. Yes for database we need to specify what is value range expected and what is use of the data in each field.

We keep the screen-shots of layout and add few lines of the purpose of the form to it.

Karsten Madsen said:

ideas for WYSIGWYG design tools for b4x

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I guess the OP is missing one fundamental functionabillity... the capability of the visual designer to connect to a virtual device or even to a real one, either by wifi or bluetooth. then it becomes What You See In The Device Is What You Get! (WYSITDIWYG)

Cableguy said:

I guess the OP is missing one fundamental functionabillity... the capability of the visual designer to connect to a virtual device or even to a real one, either by wifi or bluetooth. then it becomes What You See In The Device Is What You Get! (WYSITDIWYG)

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I may be missing something here.
I do connect to my real device from designer and see my layout as I design it.

AnandGupta said:

I may be missing something here.
I do connect to my real device from designer and see my layout as I design it.

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Yes, but you are not the OP ( original poster)