Did this company copy my creation?

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Here in US also we have the provisional application for patent. You have 12 month to test the market without pay a lot of money.. you get a Patent Pending number so you can make and sell it, putting the Patent Pending number on the product to deter others..
I think the best way is to file for PPA then in about 6 month apply for PCT. After 6 month you should know if the product can sell or not.

Natural laws are considered discovery which can not be patented. The philosophy behind this is, you discovered the law, and didn't invent it!! math equation are looked at the same way, unless they are part of physical new process that you invented, or a chemical or plant formula.
 
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I want to talk about my experience. 30 years ago I developed utilities running on Unisys mainframes, like telex handling and middleware as well. On those systems spooling run only locally on line printers. I wrote a remote spooler, to print on terminal printers as well. In one year the whole world was full of my program, or app if you like. I earned no money. One lawyer told me it was shareware, because I didn't copyright it.
That's life.
 

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because I didn't copyright it.

One of the (obvious) reasons that software is not patentable is that it is subject to copyright law not patent law. if you had placed a copyright notice into the software text that should have been sufficient. HOWEVER, most / many / all / employers claim copyright and patent right over software developed and/or inventions that are developed during the employment hours. in my past job they even claimed those if i had done the work after hours on my own equipment and resources.

some of these things work differently in the academic world - that same employer accorded ALL copyright and patent right to an academic but not a technician. one of the principles in academic world is that its original not necessarily new or innovative.

i guess software, as @Beja pointed out, is treated more as discovery than as invention, hence one can only copyright it and not patent it.

these are the things we have learned over the years.

i suppose that your employer back then didn't have the mean-minded bean-counters of today and didn't work out that there was a saleable product (dropped the ball), even though they would have claimed a lot of priority on copyrights and patents in general.

but, yes, many of us have fallen foul of the same thing. BTW was the lawyer correct in saying this was SHAREWARE what should have been said is that it had become OPEN SOURCE since no direct claim had been made. In my experience shareware has a request for donation (a solicitation for compensation on use, not a charge). I suppose, though, that in THOSE days it was pre-OPEN SOURCE and so SHAREWARE : the "term of the time".

the great thing about this forum and B4X, in general, is that the participants attitude to tools, methods and techniques is OPEN SOURCE, {well, granted, some request donations} while, quite appropriately, retaining their claim to the resultant products. that is fresh air after a lifetime of working world garbage......

(BTW if one uses the resources found in the forum, the copyright notice would need to be specific about which is the part that one coded/ wrote, and, there should be an acknowlegement/ credits panel to other developers for their supporting contributions, also, a statement that the package was developed using B4X engine. one could work out a boilerplate statement - might be difficult remembering who they all are.)
 

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mainframes
one of those moments for me was being asked by a student : "what's a mainframe?"



should have said : Start a new thread- - - - - -
 

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But they used MY APP, they didn't wrote one of their OWN!!! By the way, there was no way to place a visible copyright notice in those app's, the only prove I had was that I had sources and none had. But legal fights are always a suicide for a freelance like me.
 
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The bluetooth/RF idea is NOT new.

I have been doing it for several years now (2012) with our products, just an FYI. Your design however, is unique. The only thing you could have done is get a design patent.

As far as getting a patent, its crazy hard because of prior art. We filed for a patent a couple years back on something, only to get rejected due to prior art. So then the definitions have to be narrowed down, and down, and down...
 

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It's something that your bedroom cannot contain or something drainig more than 30kW/hour
Off the topic I know but watch this ------ maybe you can relive your youth after all ................

 

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started with IBM 360/20 tape only (

Can't recall the first one may have been an IBM but very soon after arriving myself a CDC arrived. We all went down to watch them unload the 'fridges....
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My first IBM computer was IBM XT (XT was for eXtra Technology ) with 256K RAM and 10 MB hard disk, and CGA color monitor.
it was pre-loaded with BasicA and running DOS 3.. That was in 1987
 

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My first IBM computer was IBM XT (XT was for eXtra Technology ) with 256K RAM and 10 MB hard disk, and CGA color monitor.
it was pre-loaded with BasicA and running DOS 3.. That was in 1987
Still have mine. thought recently to see if it would fire up. Don't recall the specs but bought it in 1980/2 some time. Now maybe I can get this phone to drive my car.... The interesting thing is that bang for buck has remained the same. I paid the same for the XT as for an i5 based laptop with 17" screen 2.2 clock and 4GB RAM etc.. Remarkable given inflation since the '70s...Well if goto ESP32 etc then buck-band is fantastico.

remember when Gates or someone said no one will ever need more than 64meg RAM. And an IBM exec claimed computers on desktops would never take off.....
 

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64meg RAM.
Back in the 80s it was the 64K barrier..mega was then an unheard word..ehehe
I still recall the expanded vs extended memory battle (and my first stealth virus sitting near the top 1MB limit..)
 

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1989 I read in (I think) PC Magazine or Byte, one tech reporter wrote that microprocessors will never exceed the speed of 100MHz because then the transistors will heat-up and the motherboard will burn! That was the year when I bought a PC with Intel 386DX for $2,500. with Word Perfect from Corel .
 

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remember when Gates or someone said no one will ever need more than 64meg RAM.

yes, but it was 640Kb which was also the base mem for DOS untill the ability of protected mode came and allowed to (ab)use the extra added memory.
 

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EH @Beja -> BINGO your post reached 1K views .................... must be a trophy for that ............. or that's just unnatural ..............
 
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