Android Question Dissapointed

[Tommy Sæthran]

I was thrilled to find out about B4A since im familiar with VB.net. I must say that i have not been so frustrated in years when evaluating a piece of software.

Im trying to make a simple web request to work. When reading on forums there are an ocean of different scripts. If you try one and it doesn't work, its ALWAYS "You must use this instead" , "that one is deprecated". None of the necessary files to get it to work is available for download unless your a paid user.

I FINALLY thought i got a hold of some code that would do the job, but then. "your project is to large, please purchase".

I must say that i really don't get the restrictions. If one is to evaluate the software, you really need to access whats needed to get it to work.

/Tommy

 

[Erel]

Making a download is very simple: https://www.b4x.com/android/forum/threads/b4x-okhttputils2-with-wait-for.79345/#content

You should use the internal OkHttpUtils2 library.

Note that we offer 30 days of full money back guarantee. So you can also test the full version.

 

[eps]

What is the project size limitation?

I think this is a 'recent' thing, as I was able to develop a project and install it on my phone when evaluating B4A (possibly around version 2 or something though...)

How big is the project you put together to test your idea? Are you able to trim it down?

I'm surprised that you've been unable to get B4A to work for you - it's one of the things that 'sold' it to me. It worked really well and quickly whereas other tools just didn't.

 

[Peter Simpson]

I was thrilled to find out about B4A since im familiar with VB.net. I must say that i have not been so frustrated in years when evaluating a piece of software.

Im trying to make a simple web request to work. When reading on forums there are an ocean of different scripts. If you try one and it doesn't work, its ALWAYS "You must use this instead" , "that one is deprecated". None of the necessary files to get it to work is available for download unless your a paid user.

I FINALLY thought i got a hold of some code that would do the job, but then. "your project is to large, please purchase".

I must say that i really don't get the restrictions. If one is to evaluate the software, you really need to access whats needed to get it to work.

/Tommy

Good morning Tommy,
There no reason to get frustrated, B4A is an excellent package that once you get a hang of you will want to keep developing more and more apps in. There is a limit in the evaluation version of the package, but then again there's a lot you can't do in the very basic visual studio package too.

I remember trying out eclipse and it took me ages to get a simple 'Hello World' app to install on my phone, I found B4A and in no time I got 'Hello World' installed on my phone, my next step was to purchase B4X, actually it was a button on the screen that when click popped up a Toastmessage that said 'Hello Jo' whi is my better half.

Put your frustrations to one side and follow the 'okHttputils2 with Wait For' tutorial from Erel, just the top 'Simplest example:' should suffice.

 

[DonManfred]

that said 'Hello Jo' whi is my better half

I never met her so it is possible "she" is just a Ghost
Sorry for beeing OffTopic (lol)

To be on Topic: B4A is the most easiest way to develop a native Android APP.
I bought B4A a few years ago after months of uncessfully trying to write a App in JAVA. Then i found B4A and fell in love with it.
I NEVER repented buying B4A. Even not extending my subscription.

 

[lemonisdead]

Dear @Tommy Sæthran : it is great that you have expressed your feeling. Entering a new world could be felt as difficult. That's understandable. But, may I suggest you to take a look at that page : https://www.b4x.com/b4a.html#documentation where you would find Klaus Beginner's Guide and the User's Guide too ?
I am a pro developer, not focused on mobile market but using B4A for satellite projects and registered BA4 7 years ago. I can affirm that that tool (I only see it as a tool), is the easiest way to create some app quickly and more easily in that word.

PS: in the User's Guide there are examples how to use the http requests

 

[mangojack]

And from an Old Fellow that thought VB6 was his last stop .. I attempted to learn Java , and failed miserably. Then I stumbled upon B4A ... that has created so many new doors to open.

That I can concoct a mobile app in a short space of time .. and doing stuff that I never thought previously I was capable of learning /doing .. Excites Me

Every time someone yells .. I'd Love an app that could do this or that ... I yell.. I can do that, I know B4X!

Give it a bit of time .. read the guides and spend some time in forum .. you won't regret it

EDIT : .. And meant to finish by saying .. Thank you to Erel for creating a wonderful language /program / tool and all members that frequent this forum and contribute in so many different ways ... from wisdom, education and humour ..

I think that's what makes this forum a little bit different from others.

 

[tufanv]

You can be sure that you won't be dissapointed when you start to use b4a %100

 

[Noelkman]

I was thrilled to find out about B4A since im familiar with VB.net. I must say that i have not been so frustrated in years when evaluating a piece of software.

Im trying to make a simple web request to work. When reading on forums there are an ocean of different scripts. If you try one and it doesn't work, its ALWAYS "You must use this instead" , "that one is deprecated". None of the necessary files to get it to work is available for download unless your a paid user.

I FINALLY thought i got a hold of some code that would do the job, but then. "your project is to large, please purchase".

I must say that i really don't get the restrictions. If one is to evaluate the software, you really need to access whats needed to get it to work.

/Tommy

Every language has its difficulties. I'm programming for almost 40 years now and not getting tired learning new ones.
Try assembler and then come back (just kitting) You will get used to it - trust me!
The support on this product is extraordinary. Lots of people are always willing to help.

Keep trying.

 

[Johan Schoeman]

There are almost 91 000 active members belonging to this forum and the majority of them (I guess) develop for Android and iOS. I think you will have to search long and hard to get support such as what you can get on this forum. B4X makes developing apps just so much easier - have tried others before and found it far more complicated than B4X (or in my case B4A). I don't even want to touch Eclipse as it is far too involved and far to complicate just to try and understand the IDE.

The power of for eg B4A is magnificent. Where else can you find something that allows you to use the "Basic" programming language with a mixture of some inline Java inbetween. Just endure - you will get the hang of it. And help is just a question away!

 

[BillMeyer]

Eish !! (local South African word) - you could go the Xamarin route, or the Android Studio route, or Cordova or Phone Gap or XCode or Swift - BUT - you will endure much pain and spend 40 years in the wilderness and then when you come back to the B4X suite it will be like entering paradise !!

Go ahead - buy B4X - it's one purchase you will never regret. My purchase has already netted me over US$65 000 !! over a three year period.

By the way - "If you have a good idea and just sit there - somebody is bound to run over you from behind" - B4X is a good idea !!

 

[tigrot]

Hi Tommy
I have written in objective-C and Java for Android. I can tell you that what you can do in a couple of days with B4X you can spend 2 weeks to obtain the same results with native languages.

 

[microbox]

Hello Tommy, I'm a 100% satisfied customer of this product and the members here is a gold mine.

 

[Duque]

Less than 2 months ago I bought b4a and I can recommend it with eyes closed my only knowledge in programming is vb6.0 so my name, in less than 15 days I have created an app that is generating me economic income

 

[EduardoElias]

I use b4a now for 4 years... and my app is huge and make a lot of http requests all the time...

There is something called learning curve, ever heard of that?

I tried many other solutions and only B4A fit for quick and reliable development for Android.

 

[Cableguy]

.... one would think that, after so many replies, the original poster would have come back and "say something"...

 

[BlindSight]

I found this thread while looking for the proper place to express just HOW IMPRESSED I am after tinkering with B4X for a a couple of days and after now playing around with it "seriously" only yesterday and today. - And what better place to express this than in a thread where someone is expressing his disappointment ...

I have been programming since I was 16 and more or less professionally for most of that time, close to 40 years by now, but some years ago I moved to a more managerial position and away from day to day programming and programming became "only" my passion, not my job. However, I soon realized that I had learned enough languages and that I wanted something different for this "passion playing", something that would do cross plattform with ease and something that would span not only desktop and mobile, but also my new love, embedded.

I looked high and low and then stumbled across this B4X thing with these awfully amateurish program icons which took me aback a bit (sorry, Erel), but I thought, oh well, I'll give it a try. - After one day I was hooked but lacked the time and this weekend I finally had the time for serious playing and couldn't get that grin out of my face.

And after having my first B4J solution to a difficult file fingerprinting effort in biosignal data bagged after only 3 hours, last night I decided to purchase the full enterprise suite even though I have no immediate plans for B4A or B4I - Simply because I definitely wanted to be in on this thing "whole hog" and also because it is making me grin every time I stumble upon things like Erel's JsonTree tool with immediate code output and I think to myself "What a cool tool, there goes another 30 minutes off the bill for B4X..."

@Tommy Sæthran - YES, it is true, the forum is both "massive" and "bewildering" and since it sort of replaces a more proper documentation within the IDE and since the library documentation on the web is really no more than just a listing of functions and properties in most cases and most are lacking code examples, one HAS TO resort to the forum for examples, in depth information and YES, this is somewhat frustrating because there is no "official" resource for information within the forum either.

However, at the same time the forum is so full to the brim with cool code, resources and tools that once you decide to go in head first, you will only need enough coffein to keep you going on your race to a working solution. - And if you have the money, spend it, it will come back to you ...

 

[fixit30]

.... one would think that, after so many replies, the original poster would have come back as "say something"...

Unfortunately the OP has not returned to the forum since his post

 

[Eme Fibonacci]

He was really disappointed

Unfortunately the OP has not returned to the forum since his post

He was really disappointed

 

[fixit30]

He was really disappointed

Or too busy learning B4A!