B4J Question freezing B4j for short periods

MbedAndroid · Apr 20, 2019

something really annoying. With the latest B4j during typing/editing B4J freezes, after short while you see a turning circle, and then after 10-20 seconds the editor goes on again.
Happens many times when you are typing, scrolling of what ever.
Looks a bit like the program needs some time to sort things or update the database.

If you are typing and the program blocks, then you will see the typed chars after 10-20 seconds and busniss goes on again.

This wasnt in older releases...

Using a very fast laptop (i7) with lots of memory

Harris · Apr 20, 2019

I have the exact same issue.... It is a wonder that many others have not piped up - or perhaps they did in another section - or - because B4J is so wonderful, no one would ever speak up...

Edit: Reported here..

https://www.b4x.com/android/forum/threads/b4j-autobackup-bug.104648/

Thanks

alwaysbusy · Apr 20, 2019

Disabled implicit auto completion (tools - IDE options) and the Auto Backups and see if it makes a difference (at least you will know if one of those is causing it).

I used to have this some versions ago, but this worked for me. I was at the time working in a VMware machine and have now moved for some time my projects to a fast SSD on USB3 and hadn't any issue any more since then.

Harris · Apr 20, 2019

alwaysbusy said:
Disabled implicit auto completion (tools - IDE options) and the Auto Backups and see if it makes a difference (at least you will know if one of those is causing it).

I used to have this some versions ago, but this worked for me. I was at the time working in a VMware machine and have now moved for some time my projects to a fast SSD on USB3 and hadn't any issue any more since then.

Ok, disabled both, auto complete and backup.... Let's see what happens now.

My B4A (8.80) does this as well. I disabled Auto Backs only in A to see what happens with it...

MbedAndroid · Apr 21, 2019

i think Alain has right (as usual) Disabled autobackup and it seems to be gone....Watching it.....

Strangly i didnt have this issue with B4R. But difference is that B4J is a large program (lot of text), and B4R just 1 page.
B4A does the same but not in that way B4J does. B4J and B4A programs are both lots of text...

https://www.b4x.com/android/forum/t...ute-can-timing-be-changed-or-disabled.102140/

Harris · Apr 21, 2019

I forgot to mention: Sometimes I will get the Windows Dialog ("Program is Not Responding - Wait or Close"). (both A and J)
And when it is compiling, the compile window will have a black border around it (frozen), then continue after a period... (both A and J)
All my projects are large...

I re-enabled autocomplete in J (backups is still OFF) - and it seems to work fine now.

Perhaps if backups could detect a period of inactivity after the 10 minute mark before proceeding.
Now it seems, as soon as code changes, backups jumps on and delays you...
Or, run in separate thread (not in main).

Thanks

MbedAndroid · Apr 21, 2019

Erel wrote in the other topic that it is running in the main thread. But indeed a backup when you type 10 chars is too much. Keep it every half hour or 1 hour. That's enough

Erel · Apr 22, 2019

The backup fires every 10 minutes. If you see more frequent slowdowns then they are not related to the backup. Also check the status bar message when there is a slowdown. A "backup complete" message should appear when the backup ends.

MbedAndroid · Apr 22, 2019

the freezing issue is 100% related to the backup feature. After disabling it didnt happen again.
might be that the freezing happens every 10 min but got more the idea it happens when you start scrolling/typing

Harris · Apr 22, 2019

MbedAndroid said:
it happens when you start scrolling/typing

Yes, if the IDE is just sitting idle, nothing happens (for hours)... Scroll or type - bring on the spinning circle of delay....
Sometimes, the B4A or B4J app (IDE) will terminate (close, crash, shut down).
I also have both A and J ide's open (sometimes 2 - 3 of both running different projects).

Erel · Apr 23, 2019

Harris said:
Sometimes, the B4A or B4J app (IDE) will terminate (close, crash, shut down).

Try to disable the auto backup and see if it still happens.

Harris · Apr 23, 2019

Erel said:
Try to disable the auto backup and see if it still happens.

I (we) did...
It does NOT happen when disabled (freezing, reboot, all strange behaviour before you introduced autoback functionality - with all good intention).

Thanks

Erel · Apr 23, 2019

How large is the zip file created when you call File - Export as zip?

Harris · Apr 23, 2019

One example of backups...
Now I shall post a Export as Zip next...

Erel · Apr 23, 2019

2mb is quite small. How long does it take for Export As Zip to complete?

Harris · Apr 23, 2019

test.zip - 2304 kb - of same project.

Same as above image of backups...

Harris · Apr 23, 2019

Erel said:
2mb is quite small. How long does it take for Export As Zip to complete?

milliseconds...

When auto-backup performs it's duties, minutes... Strange beans indeed...

Erel · Apr 23, 2019

This is indeed strange. Where is the project saved?

Harris · Apr 23, 2019

C:\Users\mhw\Downloads\mhwfcm\FilePicker

This is my project root folder for this project.

Normally, I have a ProjectApps folder, off the root of C:\Anywhere Software\Basic4android8.8...

However, a folder is just a folder...?

I need to retire now, nearing midnite here in Kamloops, BC.
Need my beauty sleep - cause I am one ugly SOB, as many can attest...

Thanks and good luck with this.

udg · Apr 23, 2019

Need my beauty sleep - cause I am one ugly SOB, as many can attest...

From a comics strip of decades ago: "oh my, don't say that, today cosmetics does miracles! "

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