Android Question Google Play Auto-Renewable Subscriptions - App & User Management Question.

73Challenger · Sep 18, 2023

Auto-Renewable Google Play Subscriptions: Not looking for code here, just a high level overview.....design "best practice".

All comments appreciated!

How are others designing user and subscription management for renewable subscriptions?
On device? Hosted DB? (cloud). Require user to login on app?
App will have a simple monthly subscription, user base less than 1000 so I'm looking for simple to build and maintain with reasonable security....if possible.

****Thanks to @aeric and his excellent In-App Billing demo I've already got subscription communication with Google Play up and running.

asales · Sep 18, 2023

To me:
- only on device.
- don't had login in app; I only check the purchases and subscriptions when the app starts.

- tip: put the information about the auto-renew in the screen with information about the subscription and check this link:

Subscriptions - Play Console Help

You, as a developer, must not mislead users about any subscription services or content you offer within your app. It is critical to communicate clearly in any in-app promotions or splash screens.&nbsp

support.google.com

I got a reject when I update an app with subscription because it don't had this information.

73Challenger · Sep 18, 2023

asales said:
To me:
- only on device.
- don't had login in app; I only check the purchases and subscriptions when the app starts.

- tip: put the information about the auto-renew in the screen with information about the subscription and check this link:

Subscriptions - Play Console Help

You, as a developer, must not mislead users about any subscription services or content you offer within your app. It is critical to communicate clearly in any in-app promotions or splash screens.&nbsp

support.google.com

I got a reject when I update an app with subscription because it don't had this information.

***Apologies in advance, there is much I don't know....and I appreciate your help GREATLY!!!"

- only on device -
What do you store on the device?
When the purchaser buys the subscription, does Google Play return a unique "identity token" that I must store?
Or does Google Play automatically identify the phone and user?

asales · Sep 18, 2023

73Challenger said:
***Apologies in advance, there is much I don't know....and I appreciate your help GREATLY!!!"

- only on device -
What do you store on the device?

- I check and store the information that the subscription is active.
With this information I enable or don't some new features in the app.

73Challenger said:
When the purchaser buys the subscription, does Google Play return a unique "identity token" that I must store?
Or does Google Play automatically identify the phone and user?

- I don't use the identity token, but it depends of what you want to do.
Maybe you need to identify the user outside the store, etc.

My advice is start with basic subscription, check what you need and adapt the code and informations to meet your requirements later.

73Challenger · Sep 18, 2023

asales said:
- I check and store the information that the subscription is active.
With this information I enable or don't some new features in the app.

- I don't use the identity token, but it depends of what you want to do.
Maybe you need to identify the user outside the store, etc.

My advice is start with basic subscription, check what you need and adapt the code and informations to meet your requirements later.

This is why I love the B4X environment, thank you for your help!!! You have just saved me a lot of time with this conversation!

73Challenger · Oct 3, 2023

@asales I will take your advice and make my first subscription a basic one. Simple, 30 day, on device, no in-app purchases/upgrades.

Question please.... do you add any logic to prompt the user with information or to purchase a subscription in the app.
Example1 - if a users device is offline and cannot reach Google Billing do you display a message like "please connect device to a network."
Example2 - if a user has cancelled their subscription and the grace period has expired, do you prompt to purchase the subscription or just disable functionality.

This is more of a "user experience" question than a technical question.......I may be overthinking this..... ?

@aeric appreciate any info you could add as well.....and from anyone with auto-renewing subscriptions and would like to offer some thoughts. Thank you!

aeric · Oct 3, 2023

73Challenger said:
@aeric appreciate any info you could add as well...

I am not aware of any post with my tags.

73Challenger said:
any logic to prompt the user with information or to purchase a subscription in the app

If you have tested the app, once you have made a subscription or purchase, you will get email with a bill.
When the subscription is about to expire, I think Google will send email to notify the user about the end of subscription.
You don't need to personally tell your users. However a friendly email reminder can also be done if you have their info but some users may not like to receive too much redundant email notifications.

Example 1,
I think subscription base is more suitable if you provide online services with continuous usage or download of products such as songs, videos, comics, articles or tutorials. So the app should connect to the Internet.

Example 2,
I would let the library handles the access.

I don't have any real app with subscription right now but the above are just my opinions.

asales · Oct 3, 2023

73Challenger said:
@asales I will take your advice and make my first subscription a basic one. Simple, 30 day, on device, no in-app purchases/upgrades.

Question please.... do you add any logic to prompt the user with information or to purchase a subscription in the app.

Do you registered your device in Google Play Console as "test device"?
You can made test purchases and see how it works. Google will sent an e-mail when you purchase a subscription, when the subscription was expirated time or cancelled.

73Challenger said:
Example1 - if a users device is offline and cannot reach Google Billing do you display a message like "please connect device to a network."

Yes. But you don't got information about values and others if the lib don't get connection to Google Play. You will see an error.

73Challenger said:
Example2 - if a user has cancelled their subscription and the grace period has expired, do you prompt to purchase the subscription or just disable functionality.

My free apps has Admob and some functions only works online (to show the ads).
With subscripton I remove the ads and offer offline functions, when possible.
When the subscription is expired or cancelled, it returns to the free mode.

73Challenger said:
This is more of a "user experience" question than a technical question.......I may be overthinking this..... ?

@aeric appreciate any info you could add as well.....and from anyone with auto-renewing subscriptions and would like to offer some thoughts. Thank you!

73Challenger · Oct 3, 2023

aeric said:
I am not aware of any post with my tags.

If you have tested the app, once you have made a subscription or purchase, you will get email with a bill.
When the subscription is about to expire, I think Google will send email to notify the user about the end of subscription.
You don't need to personally tell your users. However a friendly email reminder can also be done if you have their info but some users may not like to receive too much redundant email notifications.

Example 1,
I think subscription base is more suitable if you provide online services with continuous usage or download of products such as songs, videos, comics, articles or tutorials. So the app should connect to the Internet.

Example 2,
I would let the library handles the access.

I don't have any real app with subscription right now but the above are just my opinions.

Your Billing Demo (highly recommended) got me past the technical aspects. Now I'm into user interaction. I VERY MUCH appreciate the advice! Apologies for the random tag. Thanks again!

GooglePlayBilling Demo

Version: 18.0 Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=my.computerise.demo.inappbilling I make a demo for testing the in-app purchase function to be use in my other app. You can download the demo or contact me if you want to become an Alpha tester. Note: Alpha tester can make...

www.b4x.com

73Challenger · Oct 3, 2023

asales said:
Do you registered your device in Google Play Console as "test device"?
You can made test purchases and see how it works. Google will sent an e-mail when you purchase a subscription, when the subscription was expirated time or cancelled.

Yes. But you don't got information about values and others if the lib don't get connection to Google Play. You will see an error.

My free apps has Admob and some functions only works online (to show the ads).
With subscripton I remove the ads and offer offline functions, when possible.
When the subscription is expired or cancelled, it returns to the free mode.

Thank you for the fast response, very helpful! I'll work through your answers in the next few days. Thanks again!

asales · Oct 3, 2023

asales said:
Do you registered your device in Google Play Console as "test device"?
You can made test purchases and see how it works. Google will sent an e-mail when you purchase a subscription, when the subscription was expirated time or cancelled.

I think this can be helpfull:

Set up an open, closed, or internal test - Play Console Help

Important: Developers with personal accounts created after November 13, 2023, must meet specific testing requirements before they can make their app available on Google Play. Read

support.google.com

aeric · Oct 3, 2023

73Challenger said:
Apologies for the random tag

No need for apology. I mean the forum doesn't notify me even I have been tagged. So I may miss any post.

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