Android Question [Resolved] What is the default scope of a sub?

LucaMs

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• Apr 22, 2014

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I think it is Public.

But, first: you can try : don't declare the scope in a code module and try to call the routine from an activity.
second: it is better to explicity declare the scope, as you do.

 

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Erel

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• Apr 22, 2014

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See this tutorial: http://www.b4x.com/android/forum/threads/variables-and-subs-visibility.18628/

The default scope is public for both subs and variables. The warning engine treats differently explicitly declared public variables or subs.

It is recommended to always set the scope.

 

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Joacim

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• Apr 22, 2014

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Thanks to both of you. I understand that it's recommended to always set the scope but I just wondered since the default code template you get when you create a new app doesn't have any scope modifiers on the subs it creates. Maybe that can be changed in later versions?

 

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Erel

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• Apr 22, 2014

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My previous answer was not completely accurate. Subs and variables in activities and services are always private except of variables in Process_Globals. I therefore think that it is better to leave the scope identifiers from activities and services as it may confuse. Sub Initialize in the classes template is explicitly set to be public.

 

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Joacim

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• Apr 22, 2014

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OK thanks. Are all variables that is declared in Process_Globals always global, even if you would use the Private modifier?

 

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Joacim

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• Apr 22, 2014

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Oh, just wanted to add that I'm sorry that I didn't do a good enough search through the forums before I posted the question. I should of course have tested some other keywords and I probably would have found the article you linked to that explained all of this.

 

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Joacim

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• Apr 22, 2014

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But I still like to get an answer about my question regarding variables declared in the Process_Globals sub

 

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DonManfred

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• Apr 22, 2014

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Intuitive i would say they are PUBLIC. Everything else dont make sense on PROCESS_GLOBAL variables.

Edit: In erels link above is the answer....

Variables
- Activities, services and code modules: process global variables are public by default.

 

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Joacim

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• Apr 22, 2014

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Thanks. I'm new to B4A and to me it'd not really intuitive that anything that you declare as Private would be Public but then again it's not really intuitive to me how anything you declare inside any sub would be anything but local.

 

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LucaMs

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• Apr 23, 2014

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I like to help (also receive help ) then I have a blank app ready to do some tests.

Perform a test to verify that takes a few seconds (ask the question a few times and waiting for an answer commits a longer time ).

I have tried: Private variables declared in Process_Globals are NOT visible from outside.

 

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Erel

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• Apr 23, 2014

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Private variables declared in Process_Globals are private.

 

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Joacim

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• Apr 23, 2014

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Thanks, I did test it and came to the same conclusion. However now the information is also available here online for others to read.

 

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Erel

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• Apr 23, 2014

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Note that it is also written in the tutorial: http://www.b4x.com/android/forum/threads/variables-and-subs-visibility.18628/

Variables
- Activities, services and code modules: process global variables are public by default.
Activity global variables are always private.
You can hide process global variables by using the Private modifier:
Code:

Sub Process_Globals
Dim ThisIsAPublicVariable As String 'public
Public ThisIsAPublicVariableToo As String 'exactly the same as Dim.
Private ThisIsAPrivateVariable As String 'private
End Sub

Click to expand...

 

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LucaMs

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• Apr 23, 2014

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It may be added in the Beginner's Guide:

10.5 Scope
10.5.1 Process variables

after this:
"These variables are the only "public" variables. Which means that they can be accessed from other
modules as well."

 

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DonManfred

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• Apr 23, 2014

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Joacim said:

Thanks, I did test it and came to the same conclusion. However now the information is also available here online for others to read.

Click to expand...

It was already online readable! You knew the link but you did not read it (or not correctly).

 

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Joacim

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• Apr 23, 2014

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No I did miss that part of the tutorial. Sorry to bother you all with my question. I'll leave now.

 

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klaus

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• Apr 23, 2014

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LucaMs said:

It may be added in the Beginner's Guide:

10.5 Scope
10.5.1 Process variables

Click to expand...

Done for the next edition.

 

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