Just idea: online B4X emulation compiler, sandbox... for just code example testing.
Say, declare a virtual MCU port of a chosen controller and near declare a virtual COM-port of B4J, or Android's notification, or any virtual XUI view...
websites like free code camp, code academy
I don't know any apps similar to you have mentioned above are written in another languages.That damned bug...i kept chasing it until I decided to scroll down to find it wasn't just me.
Sorry guys but social media is not your answer.
Yes I have done promotions on social media and with seo on websites to help associated activities. It isn't that hard, and you get hits and traction but...you spend money on addressing others curiosity - many don't actually do anything. So as I see it it would be a waste of time for what is a programming group.
Besides, what the posts on here also confirm, is that programming people are not into marketing and for that matter marketing people are not into programming.
So, what can you do to promote b4x?
My suggestion is to develop and promote very simple programs that people need, have a sales page, and sell them - a bit like an app store but with a b4x logo - and where relevant in all of b4a b4i b4j. They should be programs that are something that can be taken off the shelf and easily adapted to work.
A recent suggestion that I asked a member to work on for me is for a sporting club I attend. There is something that can be hired and for much of the week it is not used, or if was, it is not paid for. So I suggested a booking site that can be either logged into or preferably accessed via a QR code and enables payment when a time is selected. I want it so people can just "rock up" [ie visit] and do their transactions there and then quickly and easily - but if they wanted to book in ahead of time they could.
As i see it there are lots of uses and users for something like that.
Then you have people who might want to check if their lotto entry had a win. Key in the winning numbers and scan the ticket for a prize.
An app that lets an organizer know if someone is coming to a sporting event, or a meeting, or an activity - either by tracking them or by responding to a calendar entry.
Or something that lets people know if an event is cancelled. Say its a game of tennis and the courts are too wet - instead of driving there - you can find out if its too wet or not, It might even be for surfers to say the waves are no good, etc
An app that tells you if one of your team is either on the phone or in a meeting - ie are they available to be contacted.
Then there are for small groups: meeting agenda's, minutes, treasurers reports, all of which can be pre-propulated or automated [to a degree].
If someone wanted to business efficiency programs could be developed. How often do you scan documents and they are saved under some meaningless code in a single folder when they can be renamed, and placed in a suitable structured folder. For example, recently I was given an electronic folder of bank statements back to 2014 [9 years worth] in just the scanned names from a photocopier - no identifying which year or month they related to - except via the date the file was saved.
Then there is AI, apply those tools to simple everyday tasks and make it easier for people. Sadly, some programmers try to make things too complicated, too big, too hard, to cover every eventuality.
As I see it for simple programs that save time or that meet a single need will see traffic and interest in b4x grow. After all isn't that one of the selling points of b4x. To have rapid development of applications and therefore rapid solutions?
But we have to make the little things, and not so little things, simpler - that way b4x will become better known and recognised.
100% rightHi Guys,
So, a few "new" threads have been emerging concerning "how to take B4X to the next level"...
Although most of these threads come from a "status" concern, regarding B4X platform, none of them really gives birth to a "let's do this" movements, and the lingering idea is "that's what I already do".
So, Why not take advantage of the new (or not so new) social media platforms, such as LinkedIn, Intagram, TiK-Tok, etc...?
Does B4X have such accounts? If NOT, would you (@Erel) give permission to someone, under your strict surveillance, to create and maintain such accounts?
This would, indirectly at least, reach the width of each individual member's network, thus exposing B4X to a much more vast crowd...
Or am I just being naïve?
React is not only backed by Facebook, it is created by Facebook.Not backed by global big company (React backed by Facebook)
Why not try out Jitsi.The free Google Meet or Teams only allow maximum of 100 participants in 1 hour of meeting.
My humble suggestion is to go with Telegram Channel as it has support for very large number of members.How about a WhatsApp channel?
never tried...Why not try out Jitsi.
It is free and has support for almost unlimited members.
Not sure how you can compare React with B4X. The whole point of B4X is to be able to write code in a more VB like language - I thought?100% right
Marketing and spreading of B4X is crucial step.
Also we should see close competitors.
B4X vs React - Reputation and Marketing Aspect..
I choose React because it is technically use the same approach of B4X .. B4X translates vb code to java code, React translates js to java code!
We love B4X, we need a big push for it.
Let us to see:
B4A released in 2010
React released in 2011
Now in market share, React is a big and mostly known and recognized by all developers worldwide, B4X is neglectable compared to React.
Why B4X not?
From my marketing viewpoint I see the following is the main cause of B4X spread limitation:
- Not backed by global big company (React backed by Facebook)
So, the best and fastest pushing method is hooking B4X with famous social accounts.
It is better than spending money in Facebook and Google ads.
So if anyone know one of those accounts, tell him to spread B4X.
And B4X should have commercial promotion ads videos/images assets to be linked.
We must all help our loved B4X to be more and more global programming trend.
You can watch the videos I uploaded so you don't miss so much of the discussion.First I apologise for leaving the meeting soo soon, but family takes precedence.
If I'm not mistaken the meeting lasted almost 2 hours, and the 30mins I stayed, we were not even at half the presentations.
Big group meetings like this will never be suited for collaboration/partenerships talkings... there were a lot of "stepping over" each other, un-intended of course, due to lag, and the "who's next" lingering feeling.
In my opinion, these meetings, along with forum interation, will serve to consolidate trust between those who attend, and then make them at ease to take that next step... first contact.
Unless we set theses meeting like a TED talk, with a "single" person leading the meeting, and talking about his own experiences and maybe answering some questions, these meetings will always be a "sunday BBQ" .... and I am always ready for one!
I consent in every aspect of this post. IMHO the biggest selling point for B4X is: Simple Apps could be done by everybody. And then there is a lot room for growing in the ecosphere of the IDE. But who is in need for simple apps? No, the answer is not "App-Developers" and programmers. The target group are people who have a daily job to do and who want to smoothen out their daily tasks. This is a market that is at the moment driven by MS-Office products. And this is the opportunity for B4X to sneak its way into corporate environments. There is the momentum and there is the chance to become indispensible. But fullfills the current ecosystem of B4X the needs of those non-programmer people in the coporate world? I'm afraid not. They need tutorials about setting up a simple database in a language that suits them. They need the confidence, that there is a safe way to bring their apps onto the web and they want to know exactly why is B4X the better option to do that in comparison to that regarding JS-Solution which is fully and understandable explained on youtube. Those guys dont want to see fancy experimental things which could be done with B4X. They want to see, how it could be done simple, right and stable. Who is to blame for the lack of target-audience related content on this forum and social media? Erel is not. He is the greatest programmer on earth but has never worked in coprorate environments. He couldn't help even if he wants to. Could this community do this? Could Erel sponsor some tutorials? Is it possible to win over some MS-Access Guys to show the world how B4X could be a successor for their tool? I don't have the answers but I'm quite sure, that my suggested direction is the way to go. For my part, I'm quite good in VBA, but i have never managed to do some really meaningfull in B4X. The curve is still too steep for me. Maybe I'm not alone.I think the strength of B4X is simplicity.
It is not necessary to know programming to be able to make a small application.
The structure of the language is very simple and powerful.
When I searched for a language to create Android apps and saw B4X, I thought "That's great",
anyone can create Android apps with this thing. This is not the case with other languages.
This is the strength of B4X.
First of all, I think we shouldn't deal with people who already program with another language,
but with new programmers who want to use B4X.
Young people will make the future.
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