Time to buy a new Pc...

ilan · Oct 13, 2018

hi,

more the 5 years ago i bought a Dell Notebook and am using it since then as my B4x Dev. PC. i am really happy with it but lately, i have started to learn Android Studio and it runs much slower when i use it. I really have no idea how erel made b4x run so fast and smooth i really wish Android Studio or Xcode would do the same but they don't. Anyway, i want to buy a new PC and it should be also capable to play new games and run fast. Can someone give me some suggestions what i should take in account when i am looking for a new strong pc?

I have a budget of about 1500$.

thanx, ilan

AHilton · Oct 13, 2018

The short answer: SSD Harddrives, Lots of RAM and, for games, as much of a video card as you can afford.

JordiCP · Oct 13, 2018

In my country for about that price, you can get: Core-i7, 16GB RAM and 256 GB SSD + 1TB HDD. Search for gaming PCs (Asus, Msi or others).

I agree that Android Studio eats a lot of resources. I'm also using it, and wonder if there are ways to optimize it and tell it to do less things in the background

ilan · Oct 13, 2018

AHilton said:
The short answer: SSD Harddrives, Lots of RAM and, for games, as much of a video card as you can afford.

1060 GTX and up?

MarkusR · Oct 13, 2018

there are some good ones, compare at amazon or her website
Memory PC ...
Acer Aspire GX ...
HP Omen ...
Lenovo IdeaCentre 720 ...
Medion Erazer ...

my pc was 1.169 € from amazon store jan. 2018
(without wlan)

Memory PC Gamer Intel Core i7-8700 8. Generation (SixCore) Coffee Lake 6x 3.2 GHz, ASUS, 16 GB DDR4 2133, 256 GB SSD+2000 GB Festplatte Sata3, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB 4K, USB 3.0, SATA3, HDMI, DVD-Brenner, Sound, GigabitLan, Windows 10 Pro 64bit, MultimediaPC, High End Gaming, Cardreader, Coffeelake

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ilan · Oct 13, 2018

how about this one?

http://www.speed4u.co.il/product.asp?aff_a=1&Pid=core-i5-8400-14&Cat2Cat1ID=18&Cat2ID=235

מארז : מארז מקצועי לגימרים XIGMATEK SOUNDWAVE + שני מאווררים

ספק כח : XIGMATEK 500W 80 PLUS

מעבד : Intel® Core™ i5 8400 2.8GHz Coffee Lake

לוח אם : ASUS / ASROCK H310M-K CHIPSET H310

זיכרון :8GB DDR4 2400MHZ

דיסק קשיח : SSD 240GB SATA 3

כרטיס מסך : GEFORCE Pci Express X16 GTX1050TI 4GB (DVI + HDMI)

if i add a 24" Samsung Screen, gaming Keyboard and Mouse, Windows 10 Home Edition it will cost me 4136 Shekel = 1140$

Beja · Oct 13, 2018

Brand is first.
Lenovo (read IBM) CORE i7

AHilton · Oct 13, 2018

ilan said:
1060 GTX and up?

As with most things, it depends on what your needing. For me and what little modern games I play on the PC, the 1060's (and even the Radeon RX 570's/580's) are fine. If you're wanting to run Far Cry 5 or Battlefield 1 in 4k, though, then you'll want more. Same goes for video editing but you didn't mention that.

Star-Dust · Oct 14, 2018

ilan said:
hi,

more the 5 years ago i bought a Dell Notebook and am using it since then as my B4x Dev. PC. i am really happy with it but lately, i have started to learn Android Studio and it runs much slower when i use it. I really have no idea how erel made b4x run so fast and smooth i really wish Android Studio or Xcode would do the same but they don't. Anyway, i want to buy a new PC and it should be also capable to play new games and run fast. Can someone give me some suggestions what i should take in account when i am looking for a new strong pc?

I have a budget of about 1500$.

thanx, ilan

Android Studio of both nature is slow, does not depend on the old PC. But if I put the SSD in the Android Studio will run in an acceptable manner.

I have a Sony laptop that I bought 5 years ago at 350 euros. I3 old generation. 4Gb of ram and an HDD 500gb. Forget the video card because there is little choice in the netbook and I still do not do video editing games. 350Euro cost.

When it became slow I added another 4Gigabite of ram and a SSD 480Gb. And it is reborn.
With 150 euros go the life of another 2 years.

Anyway.i can also develop with modest machines, obviously you can not play a game equally well with non-performing machines

ilan · Oct 14, 2018

Star-Dust said:
Android Studio of both nature is slow, does not depend on the old PC. But if I put the SSD in the Android Studio will run in an acceptable manner.

I have a Sony laptop that I bought 5 years ago at 350 euros. I3 old generation. 4Gb of ram and an HDD 500gb. Forget the video card because there is little choice in the netbook and I still do not do video editing games. 350Euro cost.

When it became slow I added another 4Gigabite of ram and a SSD 480Gb. And it is reborn.
With 150 euros go the life of another 2 years.

Anyway.i can also develop with modest machines, obviously you can not play a game equally well with non-performing machines

I have already upgraded to SSD and also my ram maybe 2 years ago and indeed it made a huge difference but with android studio it is not fast enough. It takes me maybe 30sec to 1min when i load a project. Its to much in my opinion and i am talking about a very simple project.

Star-Dust · Oct 14, 2018

ilan said:
I have already upgraded to SSD and also my ram maybe 2 years ago and indeed it made a huge difference but with android studio it is not fast enough. It takes me maybe 30sec to 1min when i load a project. Its to much in my opinion and i am talking about a very simple project.

Yes I know as they update it is getting heavier. But if you noticed when you installed Android Studio it is very heavy and takes a long time to download it.
Android Studio is not performing, other software of its competitors (eclipse for example) are much lighter.

I do not change PCs because a sofware has been badly designed and is slow, but I change software. (i suggest B4A)

ilan · Oct 14, 2018

Star-Dust said:
Yes I know as they update it is getting heavier. But if you noticed when you installed Android Studio it is very heavy and takes a long time to download it.
Android Studio is not performing, other software of its competitors (eclipse for example) are much lighter.

I do not change PCs because a sofware has been badly designed and is slow, but I change software. (i suggest B4A)

B4x is anyway my choice but its good to know the native option.

Star-Dust · Oct 14, 2018

You can use Eclipse or a simple text editor. But this point I create my own editor with B4J.
I did not realize it until today because I did not have the time

ilan · Oct 14, 2018

Star-Dust said:
You can use Eclipse or a simple text editor. But this point I create my own editor with B4J.
I did not realize it until today because I did not have the time

I preffer to use google ide for android since they update it every day and its better to learn something that is supported by the original company.

ilan · Oct 16, 2018

ok, i have ordered a new LapTop, i hope i will be happy with it. It has a fast Processor and good states:
It a gamer Laptop by HP (OMEN) and the price was also ok, it cost normally 5695 shekel (1563 $) but i paid 5040 shekel (1383 $) after 10 minutes of negotiations

HP
Omen 15-DC0002NJ 4AT99EA
(Intel® Core™ i7-8750H Processor 6 Core (9M Cache, 2.2GHz up to 4.1GHz
מסך

15.6 Inches Full-HD LED (1920x1080) Anti-Glare
מצלמה
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 4GB GDDR5
12GB DDR4
1TB 7200RPM
SSD 256GB PCIE NVME M.2 SSD
Windows 10 Home
Audio
קורא כרטיסי זיכרון
USB 3.1 Type C
USB 3.1 X3
HDMI

http://eilat.ivory.co.il/catalog.php?id=26442&iszap=1

Deleted member 103 · Oct 16, 2018

Hi ilan,

for 549€ you could have bought this laptop.
I use the same at work, in the engineering department.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Dell-Precis...h=item2cdb2bbd5d:g:-fcAAOSw~AVYoF1e:rk:5:pf:0

MarkusR · Oct 16, 2018

ilan said:
ok, i have ordered a new LapTop

nice, now u can use unreal engine

@Filippo do not trust ebay ... they care more criminals instead of honest members. and it was not new and fake photos.

ilan · Oct 16, 2018

Filippo said:
Hi ilan,

for 549€ you could have bought this laptop.
I use the same at work, in the engineering department.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Dell-Precis...h=item2cdb2bbd5d:g:-fcAAOSw~AVYoF1e:rk:5:pf:0

i wanted to buy a cool nice looking laptop that also can play good games and also will be strong enough for android studio so i think i made a good choice

Deleted member 103 · Oct 16, 2018

@Filippo do not trust ebay ... they care more criminals instead of honest members. and it was not new and fake photos.

I bought a "DELL PRECISION T3500 W3550 Intel XEON 3,06 GHz 12GB Nvidia FX1800 WIN7 PRO" 4 years ago for 349 €, and it still runs great.
By the way, from the Ebay seller you get one year warranty.

We use these computers at work 24 hours a day, without any problems.
Of course, buy like these computers at work as new devices.

Deleted member 103 · Oct 16, 2018

i wanted to buy a cool nice looking laptop that also can play good games and also will be strong enough for android studio so i think i made a good choice

I'm not saying that your new laptop is bad, it's even very good.
I just want to say that I do not want to spend so much money on a laptop or PC.

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