UPGRADE - watch this movie!

Honestly, no film in the last two years has captivated me like this. There are some discussions about AI in the forum, this film actually sums up my concerns best. Somehow, in the end, you should still be able to pull the plug... OK, I won't spoil anything here.

UPGRADE is, of course, absolute music of the future, slightly dystopian in mood. Give the film a try. Please write what you think about the film. I found it very inspiring despite the serious and sometimes very violent plot. Inspiring because the film is of course about technological progress and AI, but also fundamentally and subliminally about more ethical aspects, wrapped up in a very exciting plot. The film is by no means predictable and the actors are first-class. My absolute recommendation!

BlueVision said:

Honestly, no film in the last two years has captivated me like this. There are some discussions about AI in the forum, this film actually sums up my concerns best. Somehow, in the end, you should still be able to pull the plug... OK, I won't spoil anything here.

UPGRADE is, of course, absolute music of the future, slightly dystopian in mood. Give the film a try. Please write what you think about the film. I found it very inspiring despite the serious and sometimes very violent plot. Inspiring because the film is of course about technological progress and AI, but also fundamentally and subliminally about more ethical aspects, wrapped up in a very exciting plot. The film is by no means predictable and the actors are first-class. My absolute recommendation!

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I think you mean UPGRADED right?

No, I point to this movie from 2018, just available on PRIME. (pls. do yourself a favour and don't read the plot on wikipedia if you want to enjoy the movie)

BlueVision said:

No, I point to this movie from 2018, just available on PRIME.

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Got it ... quite different movies but both from Prime.

Saw it a few years ago... I'm a bit like you, hard to "impress", but I really liked it.
It's amazing how they incorporated so many things that we take as unharmful and gave them a twist, like when the AI ask for permission to control the body... and once given, for that particular moment, it doesn't need to ask again to do it over and over.

Actually, it's a shame that this Australian film has just kind of ‘gone under’ in the rubbish from Hollywood, which is simply favoured far too much. Unfortunately, it took me a whole 6 years to even realise it existed. The film cost $3 million to make and grossed $18 million. That is of course far too little for Hollywood. But these Aussies are just as capable as big studios in America or maybe even Europe. Technically perfect, no logical breaks in the plot. Respect. More of this, much more please.

BlueVision said:

Actually, it's a shame that this Australian film has just kind of ‘gone under’ in the rubbish from Hollywood, which is simply favoured far too much. Unfortunately, it took me a whole 6 years to even realise it existed. The film cost $3 million to make and grossed $18 million. That is of course far too little for Hollywood. But these Aussies are just as capable as big studios in America or maybe even Europe. Technically perfect, no logical breaks in the plot. Respect. More of this, much more please.

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about the no logical breaks in the plot...
Don't you think that the AI chip creator folded too easily?... our hero gave a way harder fight to the "enemy within"...
But in the end, I guess that letting go and slip into a "better reality" is quite tempting

Cableguy said:

Don't you think that the AI chip creator folded too easily?

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Yes, of course, but the actual story has to go on and setting up a side storyline would have only made the film unnecessarily expensive, prolonged it and ultimately would not have been effective in terms of the actual story. This problem actually resolves itself in the course of the film, because the AI Chip Creator has apparently had a problem with STEM for a very long time.
No, I mean such obvious film mistakes that make the final ‘solution’ to a conflict implausible. I remember a film with werewolves. They were impossible to break. 180 shots from a machine gun and the creature doesn't even bleed, but then the hero puts it down with a single shot from a Colt at the end of the film. Very believable...

I know, these are existential problems we're talking about here. But the plot is comprehensible, linear despite many unexpected twists and turns.

In my opinion, films like Vanilla Sky, Cloud Altas or some of Christopher Nolan's more recent films completely overwhelm the viewer because the story is anything but linear. Sometimes necessary, I realise that. But watching the film four times to get the point of the film is no fun either.

BlueVision said:

But watching the film four times to get the point of the film is no fun either.

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so very true!!!!!!!

going out on a limb, I guess you're no fan of the "lord of the rings" either...

Have you seen "Raven"?

Cableguy said:

Have you seen "Raven"?

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now you're cooking with coconut oil.......

Cableguy said:

going out on a limb, I guess you're no fan of the "lord of the rings" either...

Have you seen "Raven"?

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"short comment"
I like ‘LORD OF THE RINGS’ by Peter Jackson. It couldn't have been better. Sure, there are strange breaks in the film adaptation, but a film is a film and a book is a book. There were a lot of things that Jackson couldn't realise in order to stay true to the book. So it was absolutely right to discuss with many fans and connoisseurs of Tolkien's trilogy in order to find a compromise. I can live with that. But not with the German dubbing. You shouldn't make the mistake of always translating everything word for word. Best example is Frodo's relationship with Sam. In the German-speaking world, we don't know this master/servant relationship, which in some way reflects the relationship between an English officer and his boy. It seems very strange when Sam repeatedly addresses Frodo as ‘Mr Frodo’, although they are actually bound by an ever closer friendship. Seen in this light, there are major problems with the film adaptation of such a work and Jackson has done a good job (others didn't dare to tackle it for good reason).
I had a similar experience with GAME OF THRONES. Why do you have to translate all the places and even names into German? So JOHN SNOW becomes JOHN SCHNEE in the German dubbing. Which is only half right again. If it absolutely has to be like that, he should be called JOHANN SCHNEE...

The raven... Well, yes. I'm ambivalent about that. It's actually an ambitious sacrilege to Poe.

BlueVision said:

The raven... Well, yes. I'm ambivalent about that. It's actually an ambitious sacrilege to Poe.

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I confess, the way he let's himself die at the end caught off guard... Most see Poe for what he wrote, for the darkness of his writings, and the film bring him to an almost "innocent" and "angelical" light!

BlueVision said:

"short comment"

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I see....

BlueVision said:

I like ‘LORD OF THE RINGS’ by Peter Jackson. It couldn't have been better. Sure, there are strange breaks in the film adaptation, but a film is a film and a book is a book. There were a lot of things that Jackson couldn't realise in order to stay true to the book. So it was absolutely right to discuss with many fans and connoisseurs of Tolkien's trilogy in order to find a compromise. I can live with that. But not with the German dubbing. You shouldn't make the mistake of always translating everything word for word. Best example is Frodo's relationship with Sam. In the German-speaking world, we don't know this master/servant relationship, which in some way reflects the relationship between an English officer and his boy. It seems very strange when Sam repeatedly addresses Frodo as ‘Mr Frodo’, although they are actually bound by an ever closer friendship. Seen in this light, there are major problems with the film adaptation of such a work and Jackson has done a good job (others didn't dare to tackle it for good reason).

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Well, for me, for starters, I had never heard of Tolkien, and then all the fuss around the trilogy gave me the push I needed to see the first film... but then the first film ends somewhat "in the middle of a scene"... Then I saw the second one... and the third... and the end is, for me, anticlimactic. Too many good/evil parallel fights, too many side stories, that later provided spinoffs... just too overwhelmingly dense... but that is just me...

BlueVision said:

I had a similar experience with GAME OF THRONES. Why do you have to translate all the places and even names into German? So JOHN SNOW becomes JOHN SCHNEE in the German dubbing. Which is only half right again. If it absolutely has to be like that, he should be called JOHANN SCHNEE...

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Game of thrones is also one of those I have managed to stay away for a long time... But it's starting to make the wanting to see it... should I??

Cableguy said:

But it's starting to make the wanting to see it... should I??

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Yes and no. You develop a fondness for certain protagonists. Of course, Sean Bean dies again (as in every film). There are quite a few lengths and hangs in the series. I doubt that I would have made it through the seven seasons if I'd always had to wait a year. If you can watch the episodes one after the other, you can keep an overview. All the trials and tribulations are very drawn out, but that also binds you to certain characters. The absolute highlights for me were the so-called WALKERS and the gigantic battle (THE LONG NIGHT). The ending, well, at some point the ideas ran out or the series was no longer financed. In contrast to ‘HOUSE OF THE DRAGON’ (a prequel series), GAME OF THRONES gets my recommendation. Technically well made, some great twists in the story, lots of carnage. You'll need a lot of time to watch the whole series. But don't think you can skip an episode or two, you'll often miss a little snippet to understand what happens a few episodes later.
Best thing for me was the appearance of Diana Rigg (! Emma Peel !) in a fantastic role. Simply great.

BlueVision said:

But don't think you can skip an episode or two, you'll often miss a little snippet to understand what happens a few episodes later.

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that's true. one day we'll get back and binge watch it......

Cableguy said:

I had never heard of Tolkien

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i live 45 min drive from where he spent (apparently) his early years. haven't found any hobbits (and Liv Tyler was out for the day that time. I guess that the disappointment with the film ending is part of that creative license thing that happens where three long books are squashed into a couple of hours of celluloid. At least Jackson didn't mess it up completely.

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I'm in Sydney, Australia

BlueVision said:

Australian film

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Years ago, when taking my son to his saxophone lesson in Macleod, we got diverted one time due to filming, and there was a back-to-the-future style car in the vicinity which looked pretty interesting. Turned out to be this movie. Plus the motorway scene was done on a local highway which they closed it down for filming, partly so they could drive on the wrong side of the road rather than spook moviegoers who drive on the right.