What language does E ... l use?

Star-Dust

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But what is the language that was used to create the B4X IDE environment?

For the environment, I suppose it started with a purchased editor that he customized, but the translator, the corrector that reports typing errors and everything else will have done personally.
So I suppose that's the language he knows best.

Here's my question ... What is the longuaggio that E..l (unnamed) knows best?

Obviously it's just a curiosity, I'm not going to abandon B4X in favor of this language (perhaps)
 

EnriqueGonzalez

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I know for sure its C#
there are sprinkles of this knowledge in several posts in the forum.

first example that comes to my mind:

[java] Creating libraries for B4A

New video tutorial is available here: http://www.b4x.com/forum/libraries-developers-questions/12431-video-tutorial-creating-simple-library.html Basic4android has a very good support for external libraries. In fact almost all of the internal keywords are loaded from an external library (Core...
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where its mentioned that the ide is a net program. i know there are more than one language for net, but there are other clues out there.
 

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Star-Dust said:
What is the longuaggio that E..l (unnamed) knows best?
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I've 'known' Erel for about 15 years now, from Basic4ppc to helping test the first pre-release versions of B4A. I believe his 'first language' was writing Java for a large computer firm that you will have heard of. In fact Java and C# are so similar that you can write quite good C# in Java, as I do, although there are differences - in the implementation of generics for instance. String comparison is a common trip-up difference, the = operator doesn't work in Java and you need to use the equals method.
 

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Star-Dust said:
Here's my question ... What is the longuaggio that E..l (unnamed) knows best?
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Sorry to be boring but the language I know and like best is B4X

As written above the IDE is written in C# (WPF), the B4A and B4J frameworks (libraries) are written in Java, B4i libraries written in Objective C and B4R libraries are written in C++.

I don't like WPF at all. It is powerful but it is an anti-RAD framework.
 

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Mmmhh, C# and Java perhaps have similarities by syntax but not quite as similar in architecture. Oke, they both have a garbage collector but coming from C#, Java is still not a very transparant and friendly language.
The main question is:
If you say "In fact Java and C# are so similar", why would someone as Erel use C# instead of Java. Because he has way more experience using Java as you said " I believe his 'first language' was writing Java ". This makes no sense if you are right. I think .NET is the main reason. Erel probably could have written it as easy in VB.NET.
 

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But VB.NET is pretty much dying/dead because of C# being more powerful and continuing to gain new features while VB.NET stagnates. This is my opinion, but I think the VB crowd that this particular language was targeted for moved on because of how foreign VB.NET actually was. At least thats been my personal experience. I abandoned VB after VB6 because of the language not being VB anymore, you could pretty much write in C# at that point.
 

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techknight said:
I abandoned VB after VB6 because of the language not being VB anymore, you could pretty much write in C# at that point.
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Yes, that's my point. So, Erel probably could have written it as easy in VB.NET which uses the same underlying architecture. I think .NET was the reason Erel used C#. He must have seen a big advantage not using Java.
 

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AnandGupta said:
Yes, Java load time was very slow when Erel released B4A, i.e. basic4ppc, on windows.

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That sure is something to leave Java. But that doesn't explain why he used C#. If speed was a concern C++ would had been a better option.
 

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I think c# is easier than c++

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Pocket PC and Windows Mobile, up to version 6.5, were basically a version of Windows 95 running on ARM with a Windows CE kernel. Importantly they implemented the .NET Compact Framework which was a subset of the full .NET Framework that most importantly included a subset of Windows Forms. C# was the natural language to program for this platform. Basic4ppc was a desktop WinForms IDE programmed in C# that transpiled to C# and then compiled for the device. The device compatibility was good enough that you could take a Basic4ppc compiled program and run it on the desktop as well as on the device - even many of the native P/Invoke dll calls were usable on the device. I really miss those days although Basic4ppc still lives on as a desktop IDE on my computers - although heavily modified to support high DPI displays and other such modern fripperies.
 
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rabbitBUSH

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YO @Erel !

Are you ears burning like fire : they're talking about you somewhere out here.....


PSSSSt Guys, teacher's listening you know . . . . ?better go behind the bike shed before you talk so loud. . . .?‍

hehehehe

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STUPIDEST dumbest phone I ever ever had........
 
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