Wich Cloud are you using to backup all your stuff? OneDrive, DropBox, Google Drive

techknight · Feb 1, 2021

Alexander Stolte said:
Which provider do you use to backup your files, pictures etc.? and are you satisfied with it?

I've been using Microsoft OneDrive for years and I'm not happy with it, synchronization takes a long time, videos often take a long time to load on the phone and then it's usually the worst quality...

The reason I'm worried about this now is that since the update to mac OS Big Sure, Onedrive no longer works on the mac and microsoft can't seem to get a handle on it for 3 months. And also generally onedrive on the mac is absolutely not recommended, the synchronization takes even longer than with windows... It really hurts to use onedrive on the mac.

Does an external hard drive count? I keep my working drive mirrored with an external hard drive, and that drive is mirrored to another one that remains offline and off-site.

I dont know about you, but I dont want my stuff touching the cloud. I dont want to feed big data anymore than I have to.

Num3 · Feb 1, 2021

Cableguy said:
Interesting... can you point to the your NAS model... your setup is what I was looking for... plus, do you think it would be possible to create a client for the NAS, using B4X products, specially Android

For my home I use a Synology DS220J (ARM Cpu and only 512mb ram!, but is sufficient).
The linux server is a Terramaster F2-221 (hidden Hdmi port + Intel x64 Cpu) with an extra 4Gb DDR3L (6gb total).
Both these NAS out of the box run custom Linux distros, they just have a nice web gui on top to manage everything and some custom packages to install the extas
Synology in my opinion fails because they have too many android apps (one for each service) instead of only a single app that manages all

Didier9 · Feb 1, 2021

I use Google Drive, Amazon Drive and Sync. I have dropped Dropbox as they became bloated and slow and now use Sync as a replacement. Sync is a lot like Dropbox was before they started bloating.
I like Amazon Drive because it is readily accessible through any browser (Sync is too).
I like Google drive for it's going integration with Android and my wife's Chromebook.
Honestly I could do with just 2 of those, but I have not yet decided which two...

rabbitBUSH · Feb 1, 2021

MiguelL said:
Syncthing runs on Windows or Linux and has been very reliable for over 2 years now.

Syncthing has been around for some time - we used to use at work. I have seen a number of friends use Rsync as a more "sophisticated" option.

I don't recall if has both Windows and Linux versions - but I would be surprised if it didn't.

10 practical examples of Rsync (linux flavour)

rabbitBUSH · Feb 1, 2021

techknight said:
Does an external hard drive count?

Not usually in my book.

I don't trust externals - too many risks - for instance last night an SSD I use as an external just disappeared from the W10 explorer (POOF). I was lucky that a cold reboot brought it back. but, did a bunch of copy copy copy right away.

Its worth looking into making an older computer into a slave to work as a NAS even in your home or under the work bench. Review some of the conversaton above. Still backing freeNAS as the option of low revenue input. Anything you can stuff three to 5 good size HDD/SSDs into. There are a couple of other softwares but had lots of success with freeNAS. freeNAS system (and others) will boot from system installed on USB.

I had one set up which ran from desktop (Rsync) to freeNAS-001 and then freeNAS-001 backup every night to freeNAS-002. If the second one can be off-site all the better.

Actually small dedicated NAS boxes are not all that expensive either and come with some form of software pre-installed - normally with a raft of bells-and-whistles.

virpalacios · Feb 2, 2021

Hi, I use Google Drive, first I used automatic sync, however latelly I went manual, I use it for docs and code.

techknight · Feb 2, 2021

rabbitBUSH said:
Not usually in my book.

I don't trust externals - too many risks - for instance last night an SSD I use as an external just disappeared from the W10 explorer (POOF). I was lucky that a cold reboot brought it back. but, did a bunch of copy copy copy right away.

Its worth looking into making an older computer into a slave to work as a NAS even in your home or under the work bench. Review some of the conversaton above. Still backing freeNAS as the option of low revenue input. Anything you can stuff three to 5 good size HDD/SSDs into. There are a couple of other softwares but had lots of success with freeNAS. freeNAS system (and others) will boot from system installed on USB.

I had one set up which ran from desktop (Rsync) to freeNAS-001 and then freeNAS-001 backup every night to freeNAS-002. If the second one can be off-site all the better.

Actually small dedicated NAS boxes are not all that expensive either and come with some form of software pre-installed - normally with a raft of bells-and-whistles.

Well it does in my book. I have had Zero issues with my practices.

I use external drives as backup drives, and once Its mirrored, it goes back up in the case and closet.

Hell, I have data stored that goes back to the 90s that I need to purge out someday.

I dont keep hard drives hooked up and running if I dont have to. its debatable whether multiple spinups or continuous usage powered up is worse over another. I just dont power them up unless I need to. And every so many years, I move over to another hard drive.

I just replaced my 4TB drives with 14TB drives when they were on sale.

moster67 · Feb 2, 2021

@techknight
God forbid but if your house or wherever you keep your hard drives get destroyed in a fire or another disaster event, you might have difficulties recovering...
I use hard drives as well but also cloud storage

udg · Feb 2, 2021

A lot of useful infos were collected and shared in this thread! Once more a confirmation of the great value of our community.
Since it wasn't highlighted (or I missed it..) , let me stress a point about backups and ransomware.
Those malwares often sneakily install on your computer and encrypt files for some time prior to reveal themselves. This means that your daily backups, starting at the attack date, are compromised as the living set.
So, to somewhat recover from a ransomware attack, you should have your backups to store a few days of data not just the last one day worth of it.

You also may find useful to read about the 3-2-1 backup strategy and its evolution.

j_o_h_n · Feb 2, 2021

moster67 said:
@techknight
God forbid but if your house or wherever you keep your hard drives get destroyed in a fire or another disaster event, you might have difficulties recovering...
I use hard drives as well but also cloud storage

I agree. For peace of mind you need something off site and automatic

udg said:
So, to somewhat recover from a ransomware attack, you should have your backups to store a few days of data not just the last one day worth of it.

Just looked up my sync.com situation regarding that and picked a file that changes regularly, I was able to go back over a year's worth of versions and it was still offering to load older versions.

Martin Larsen · Feb 12, 2021

MiguelL said:
t's the best and most reliable thing I've found so far for my backups. Syncthing runs on Windows or Linux and has been very reliable for over 2 years now.

I use SyncThing too. I used Dropbox before, but Linux support was getting worse and worse (like not supporting encrypted drives etc) so I rolled out my own backup and sync solution using SyncThing with my NAS as the master.

I still use Dropbox for sharing with others.

For real backup I use Code 42 (formerly Crashplan). I like having a backup outside my house, just in case. A SyncThing destination at a friend would be a solution as well.

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