Basic4ppc for Android, what do you think?

corwin42

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About the timeline... I hope to release the first version around December 2010 or January 2011.
Thats great news.

Will it be possible to develop directly on the device with B4A?
 

SarahWard

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What do you think about adding support for Android devices?
Do you plan to do Android development?

I would appreciate any feedback...
Some of my Freeware nature software users have requested Android versions. It seems people are starting to give up WinMobile and go to Android. I would love to see this development and would rewrite all my freeware for Android if the compiler was available.
 

SarahWard

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I had thought myself of not going the Android route, too much new to learn for an old head :(
I hear that five by five Andrew! I feel much the same but it is only by being challenged to new ways of thinking about stuff that we stay young at heart. Also, we need you! :)

Sarah
 

Amalkotey

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This time some questions about Basic4Android

@ Erel:

This time some questions about B4A:

  1. If the B4A an interpreter or compiler version. If compiler version.
  2. Then generates native code?
  3. To what extent will be compatible with B4A B4PPC?
  4. If B4a his own or a component of, for example Visual Studio or Eclipse?
Short info would be nice.

cu
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Erel

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This time some questions about B4A:
  1. If the B4A an interpreter or compiler version. If compiler version.
  2. Then generates native code?
  3. To what extent will be compatible with B4A B4PPC?
  4. If B4a his own or a component of, for example Visual Studio or Eclipse?
1. It is a compiler.
2. The B4A compiler generates java code which is then compiled with the formal SDK compiler.
3. B4A code is not compatible with B4P. It will be similar in many aspects but different in others. As I wrote, the language will be more "powerful", especially with regarding to objects.
4. B4A is a stand alone IDE, similar to the current one.
 

diego

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how about a beta version for registered users? even the typical "hello world" so that we can start "thinking in Android" (I'm anxious)

I hope that Basic4A won't work only with objects, "my" Java, C#... is worse than my english :sign0080:
 

Erel

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There will be a public beta version when it is ready.

I hope that Basic4A won't work only with objects, "my" Java, C#... is worse than my english
Basic4android language will not be more complex than Basic4ppc. The Android environment is more complicated than Windows Mobile, however Basic4android will allow the develop to address the additional complexity.
 

Amalkotey

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1. It is a compiler.
2. The B4A compiler generates java code which is then compiled with the formal SDK compiler.
3. B4A code is not compatible with B4P. It will be similar in many aspects but different in others. As I wrote, the language will be more "powerful", especially with regarding to objects.
4. B4A is a stand alone IDE, similar to the current one.

@Erel:

To:

2. Does that mean that you can embed the Android SDK? Which version of the Android SDK will be used?

4. Does the IDE on the Windows PC or on the Android device?

best regards
Amalkotey
 

Erel

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2. I'm not sure what you mean with embedding the Android SDK. You will need to install the Android SDK together with Basic4android on the development computer. The SDK is only required during compilation. The compiled package (apk) is a regular Android apk file which doesn't need any special runtimes.
I'm not sure about the versions yet. It will probably be flexible to some extent.

4. The IDE runs on the desktop (Windows).
 

Amalkotey

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2. I'm not sure what you mean with embedding the Android SDK. You will need to install the Android SDK together with Basic4android on the development computer. The SDK is only required during compilation. The compiled package (apk) is a regular Android apk file which doesn't need any special runtimes.
I'm not sure about the versions yet. It will probably be flexible to some extent.

4. The IDE runs on the desktop (Windows).

@Erel:

Thanks for the information. I would like to offer myself as a beta tester. My backgroiund it should be interesting, since I am certified in addition to my SAP certification as SCJP. to test my Android Androidsysteme available from 1.5 to 2.2 on the disposal. Furthermore, I mastered C, Pascal and C # object. If you have interest it, please send me a PM or a mail.

best regards
Amalkotey
 

BPak

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Erel

Will the B4A be all we need installed on the computer to develop for Android?

Or will we also need JAVA SDK or JRE?

And also will we need the Android SDK?

Thanks
 

agraham

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I'd like to be added to the list for a beta of B4Android as well...
In that case best to do what Erel requested, just posting here won't automatically include you.
Other users who also like to beta test Basic4android, please send me an email to erel@basic4ppc.com.
I know things are progressing but as Erel posted earlier
I hope to release the first version around December 2010 or January 2011 ... A little bit of patience is required now
 
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