Covid19 Vac Shot

[agraham]

believe mainstream media

The Rair Foundation! Hardly mainstream media. Utter bollocks. A right wing conspiracy anti-vax site and you are prepared to believe them? ?

I prefer to take my facts from the real doctors, scientists and epidemiologists of National Health England and the UK's Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation who really do know what they are talking about.

 

[LucaMs]

Utter bollocks

This will be useful to me ? ; is the spelling correct?

 

[alwaysbusy]

The Rair Foundation! Hardly mainstream media. Utter bollocks.

Indeed! And Luc Montagnier has been (mis)quoted by such conspiracy sites so many times he now has very little credibility left. Even his peers have asked in an open letter some time ago he should stop using his Nobel status to spread dangerous health messages outside of his field of knowledge.

 

[ilan]

According to this table, fewer people died in the year with the pandemic than before the pandemic.
View attachment 114305

i will explain your idea in a different way.

in israel every year about 400 people die in a car accident. so let's say that in 2020 not 400 people died but 2000 people died so 5x more. now the minister that is in charge of this comes to the Parlament and starts warning about that issue. now someone comes and says in Israel every year 60k people die so 2000 is not to bad. but the minister says we can avoid that by building better roads and give better education to kids and tougher rules about drinking and driving etc. but again the argument that it is a small % of the whole death rate.

so the idea is this, don't look at the total amount (btw your stats, in my opinion, are wrong) but look at the amount of the death for the same reason.

i remember that big professors in Israel went to the news and told that it is a harmless flue and every year 1000s of people die from the flue so i went checking in the government site and also in the HMO site and guess what, these are the stats:

2017 = 41
2018 = 134
2019 = 54

On average about 60 people die from the flu in Israel.
in 2020 about 5000 people die from the flu "covid19"

so if this is the same as any flu why are those numbers so high? i agree that in total it is a small % of the total death rate in a country but are we all now only numbers?
if we can help someone don't we should to try do so?

The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants."

this is like saying don't create better locks because this will create better robbers

i think the discussion here is really worthless. i will recommend everyone take the vaccine. i took it in February. i hope we all will get someday back to normal and remember this part of our life as a piece of history and not as our present.

have a nice day all of you guys
(i am out of this thread!)

 

[alwaysbusy]

I'm out too. If this pandemic has learned us something, it's that everyone's an expert. Or to paraphrase our own Belgian Covid adviser when confronted with one of those 'experts' from such a conspiracy site (who turned out to be a dance teacher before the pandemic started): "Be sure if one day there is a Salsa-pandemic, you are the first one I will call!". ?

 

[agraham]

"Utter bollocks" - is the spelling correct?

Yes, see also the equivalents

Complete bollocks
and
Total bollocks

All mean nonsense!

 

[Daestrum]

Complete bollocks
and
Total bollocks

All mean nonsense!

Unless preceded by "The dog's" then it means something really good. ie The dog's bollocks.

 

[udg]

Don't you forget "don't break my bollocks" as the Sex Pistols album in the late 70s or early 80s

Edit: it was "Never mind the bollocks", sorry. And now, since my mind failed at the recall,..I go listen to that "music"!

 

[LucaMs]

Don't you forget "don't break my bollocks" as the Sex Pistols album in the late 70s or early 80s

Almost the same as I said in 1971, when I was learning my first English words in school, but I used the word: ??
?

 

[aeric]

Almost the same as I said in 1971, when I was learning my first English words in school, but I used the word: ??
?

? ??

 

[lare]

And Luc Montagnier has been (mis)quoted

Ok, I will not quote him, here is the link to the video where you can here him saying that from his own mouth
https://rumble.com/vh8vz9-bombshell...-that-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants.html
Farewell!

 

[andymc]

Everyone writes their opinion here, but no one has an answer to my question, because that is the question.

Have you heard of Long Covid?
My wife runs a clinic for long Covid sufferers, many are in their 30s and 40s. Death is not the only concern from getting Covid.

There's a good article on it here:

One in 20 people likely to suffer from ‘Long COVID’, but who are they?

Our latest study shows that one in 20 people will suffer symptoms for more than 8 weeks and reveals who is most at risk of developing ‘long COVID’.

covid.joinzoe.com

This is the best argument for getting jabbed at younger ages, aside from the vaccines having already been shown to reduce transmission rates too, which is very important too.

 

[Harris]

Just got mine today, physer....
Could not find another thread in chit chat relating to this...
Go World, go.... We all need to get onboard...

I never would have thought that this simple post would have raised such a storm of controversy (from some who lead the charge against - and inspired / inflamed others to speak up for).
Anyways, this community shall forge ahead, continue to support each other in our endeavors (those who make it out of this mess), regardless of our personal beliefs and world views / actual conditions.
We are all entitled to our opinions, however skewed from the mainstream - and logic - they may seem....

Be well everyone - you are all very helpful and important to me. Simple words cannot express my appreciation over these past years since I joined this club - and have been allowed to remain a member.

Harris

 

[josejad]

Of course… “what happens in chit chat, stays in chit chat”

 

[aeric]

 

[moty22]

PS. now we've talked about it long enough.

A lab mouse ask another: "have you heard about the new covid vaccine, are you gonna get one?"
The other mouse answered: "are you crazy?! it has been tried only on human."

 

[LucaMs]

From Twitter:

(translation)
A nurse friend of mine called me; she was forced to get vaccinated otherwise she would have been suspended from work for 6 months without salary and subsequent reintegration with a different job. After the vaccine, thrombosis in her legs. Now she no longer risks her life. She will never go back to work, will sue.