Donation or Purchase for Source Code - Right Term

Selling/Sharing (with a value) pieces of Source-Code must have "Donation" or "Purchase" for button


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Spavlyuk

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Many of us asking for "Donation" and not Selling the Code with "Purchase" Button. Which is the reason selecting Donation and not Purchase ?
I'm guessing people don't want to deal with invoices, taxes, refunds or other laws regarding the sales of goods, so they ask for donations instead. If a payment is required for you to receive something, that's obviously a purchase and not a donation. If you want people to pay for updates then that would be a subscription.
 

Magma

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I'm guessing people don't want to deal with invoices, taxes, refunds or other laws regarding the sales of goods, so they ask for donations instead. If a payment is required for you to receive something, that's obviously a purchase and not a donation. If you want people to pay for updates then that would be a subscription.
But if that was "product-ready-to-sell" or the real-price-of-code may be no-one can really buy pieces of code... So if it is as Donations are always lower from the original price of Source code... if they had taxes and funding... and sold like ready-products will be then a High-Price/Value product even more than a Well-Known product... because the buyer getting source-code and not compiled versions.
 

tchart

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According to Wikipedia under Donationware the author may set the donation amount.


I think for 1 to 1 help requests the term of “bounty” is more appropriate.

If it is a library or example that many will use them donation is appropriate with or without a minimum amount.

For a full solution, purchase is probably appropriate but purchase implies some level of support etc
 

amorosik

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No he cannot.
if you buy a source for 10-15$ make some changes and sell it as it is yours than you are disrespecting the main coder and also prevent from people creating sources for sell.
it does not make any sense to me what you are saying.

Don't criticize me about things I've never written
I never wrote 'sell it as it is yours'
I never wrote 'sell it ..' but 'share with other ..'
So please don't reply on things I've never written

I would like to point out that if you or others SELL the SOURCE CODE, without specifying any clause or method of supply (for example 'not to resell'), then I can do what I think best of that code
I don't think I'm being disrespectful to the original creator of that code, nor damaging it in any way
Even if I decide to resell it

Conversely, if you want some forms of code protection, even if provided in source code, then specify it as a condition BEFORE making the sale
And if the conditions are also acceptable to the buyer then you can complete the sale
You cannot assume that the conditions that are desirable to you are also acceptable to the buyer, you must explicitly specify this
There is no valid rule by default
 

ilan

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Don't criticize me about things I've never written
I never wrote 'sell it as it is yours'
I never wrote 'sell it ..' but 'share with other ..'
So please don't reply on things I've never written
you wrote it and you keep writing it exactly here so there is no misunderstanding.

I would like to point out that if you or others SELL the SOURCE CODE, without specifying any clause or method of supply (for example 'not to resell'), then I can do what I think best of that code
I don't think I'm being disrespectful to the original creator of that code, nor damaging it in any way
Even if I decide to resell it

you wrote: Even if I decide to resell it

and here:

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why are you claiming me to write stuff you have not written?

you think it is ok to re-sell or share a source you purchased after modifying it IF the seller has not quoted it clearly that you may not do it AND i think this is obvious.

i dont write such a clause on source i sell or share because i think this is obvious.

do you think it is ok to take a source that was shared for free and then upload it to a website and sell?? or buy a source and then share it for free after making some modifications?? even if there was no conditions from the seller side in my opinion it is VERY wrong!
 

amorosik

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you wrote it and you keep writing it exactly here so there is no misunderstanding.

If you say that I wrote it, you can surely tell me where I wrote it
Of course before your post #16, because that's where the criticism is expressed

you wrote: Even if I decide to resell it

Of course, I wrote this in my post # 24
You say that in your post # 16 it is normal to report sentences that I had not written previously?
It seems clear that the misunderstanding is not mine

you think it is ok to re-sell or share a source you purchased after modifying it IF the seller has not quoted it clearly that you may not do it AND i think this is obvious.
i dont write such a clause on source i sell or share because i think this is obvious.
do you think it is ok to take a source that was shared for free and then upload it to a website and sell?? or buy a source and then share it for free after making some modifications?? even if there was no conditions from the seller side in my opinion it is VERY wrong!

You're mixing up a lot of unexpressed things
We were talking about the "sale" of source software
I remark "sale" because this makes it very different from retrieving a code fragment from a website or other similar source
And being a "sale", in the absence of explicit conditions, the source code provided can be used in any way
It is neither obvious nor wrong nor very wrong
 

ilan

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If you say that I wrote it, you can surely tell me where I wrote it
Of course before your post #16, because that's where the criticism is expressed
as i already quoted you.
it does not matter if you wrote sell or share or do what ever i want. all 3 are the same for me.
i also don't think you changed your mind from post #16 to post #24 so your opinion is clear:

As long as it is not written i can do what ever i think is the best... (= what ever i want)

without specifying any clause or method of supply (for example 'not to resell'), then I can do what I think best of that code

You're mixing up a lot of unexpressed things
We were talking about the "sale" of source software
I remark "sale" because this makes it very different from retrieving a code fragment from a website or other similar source
And being a "sale", in the absence of explicit conditions, the source code provided can be used in any way
It is neither obvious nor wrong nor very wrong

i am not mixing anything i am talking about the same topic.
buying a source for 5-10$ does not give you the right to re-sell, re-share, re-do what ever you think is best with the source code.
what it gives you is the right to learn from it and use it or part of it in a finished product like an app for commercial or non commercial use (if the seller has not stated anything else)

anyway it starts to get to locations i really don't like. i will not response anymore on this thread i don't like your attitude and you also made me think twice now before sharing/selling sources here in this forum.
 

Magma

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A last comment to all these... happening...

before some years i ve uploaded a small app with full source code (totally free)... one member took it as it was add his name and sharing it as utility with his customers - with no even adding me at credits or from where he got it.. ofcourse he was not asking money when sharing...well i ve found it in luck at his webpage... searching the net....

I ve message him and ofcourse he said that used my code with adding some features... I ve let it passed... REASON... because i had already shared it...

Well as I always saying we are here to sharing knowledge-ideas... some of them using it.... sharing their knowledge with us (Something like KARMA).. sometime i think that this member will help me too.. I am sure for it... believe in good faith.

From the other hand what code is clearly "our patent (let's say it like patent) code" - some seems with other - some have stolen ideas - some using snippets from here...

We are getting and we are giving... that's the "philosophy" here...

* Ofcourse if was selling the code... that would be a different thing
 

amorosik

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buying a source for 5-10$ does not give you the right to re-sell, re-share, re-do what ever you think is best with the source code.
This is your opinion
In the absence of explicit agreements there is no shared rule that allows you to discriminate what can be done and what cannot be done

what it gives you is the right to learn from it and use it or part of it in a finished product like an app for commercial or non commercial use (if the seller has not stated anything else)
First you write that it cannot be resold, then you say that it can be used in a commercial app?
They are two things opposite to each other
Make a decision, then let us know
 

Magma

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@amorosik wouldn't it be kinder?... to stop this discussion between you two as it is not leading anywhere. You believe that, he something else... democracy... or you want this topic locked by Erel ... I think there are more members to express their thoughts here...

sorry, I felt little sad... :(
 

amorosik

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@amorosik wouldn't it be kinder?... to stop this discussion between you two as it is not leading anywhere. You believe that, he something else... democracy... or you want this topic locked by Erel ... I think there are more members to express their thoughts here...
sorry, I felt little sad... :(

I don't seem to have been rude or aggressive
I expressed my thoughts, in this case different from what @ilan expressed
I believe there is no valid reason why this 3d can be blocked
 
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