PC optimization software ?

lemonisdead

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Guess what : all my troubles came from the fact that the MacAfee uninstaller does not remove the software completely. If someone, one day, has the problem, go here. The company has published a dedicated tool. It's far better now :)
 

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A note on SSD's. Buy a name brand one that you have read reviews on. The cheap ones are not that fast. My first SSD was not fast but my 2nd is lightning! I mean really fast!! I will never go back.
 

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all my troubles came from the fact that the MacAfee uninstaller does not remove the software completely.

alright, so my guess was right. Blame Adobe for adding crap like that in their acrobat reader package. make sure you disable the install of it when you upgrade acrobat reader.
 

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A note on SSD's. Buy a name brand one that you have read reviews on. The cheap ones are not that fast. My first SSD was not fast but my 2nd is lightning! I mean really fast!! I will never go back.
I highly recommend the Kingston V300 its got fast read AND write speeds and is priced pretty reasonably, the 240GB SSD is £73.50p with free delivery from Amazon and if you shop around it can be found for just under £70! That's pretty amazing value, and if you don't need that much space you could opt for the 120GB and save a few more quid. I have these drives installed on my home laptop and insisted on one being fitted to my work PC. Highly recommended IMHO! ;)
 

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alright, so my guess was right. Blame Adobe for adding crap like that in their acrobat reader package. make sure you disable the install of it when you upgrade acrobat reader.

Install Foxit Reader and kiss goodbye to Adobe Reader.
Foxit is free and lightweight.
 

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I highly recommend the Kingston V300 its got fast read AND write speeds and is priced pretty reasonably, the 240GB SSD is £73.50p with free delivery from Amazon and if you shop around it can be found for just under £70! That's pretty amazing value, and if you don't need that much space you could opt for the 120GB and save a few more quid. I have these drives installed on my home laptop and insisted on one being fitted to my work PC. Highly recommended IMHO! ;)
NO!
The initial versions of Kingston V300 were good but later they started using worse parts, the later versions of this SSD are now not as good, they are half the performance of the first batches! READ the reviews on that page you linked to. This is exactly why the price is dropping.
I had this SSD in my wishlist for 6 months but later I read the reviews I went for a Samsung Evo 840 which is a pretty impressive SSD.

Install Foxit Reader and kiss goodbye to Adobe Reader.
Foxit is free and lightweight.
Either Foxit or Sumatra. I'm torn between the two. Win8 comes with a very fast PDF renderer albeit metro, but you dont need anything else.
 

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NO!
The initial versions of Kingston V300 were good but later they started using worse parts, the later versions of this SSD are now not as good, they are half the performance of the first batches! READ the reviews on that page you linked to. This is exactly why the price is dropping.
I certainly hadn't realised this, my SSD is well over a year old now so I'm guessing I just fell lucky. Although I did do plenty of research at the time.
It's the sad state of the world we live in. I've noticed recently that supermarkets are selling products at the same price as normal but if you look closely the packet sizes have started to shrink. It's all very underhand!
 

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@thedesolatesoul having just skimmed through the first 100 or so reviews it doesn't appear to be all that bad. In fact one reviewer has rated it badly but is using it on SATA 2.
 

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Wow, very interesting read. That's a big difference!
 

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Hello,

I am looking for any (more) ideas to "boost" my PC. In fact, I did bought a PC to run B4A separately before to buy B4I.
Previously, I did use B4A on a Mac using Parallels. The 32bits version was pretty responsive. On the PC, the system is not as responsive. But the new PC has a lot of more RAM, etc.
Of course, I have uninstalled all the "companion software" installed by the manufacturer and I even upgraded to 8.1 Pro.

So, for now, I have tried a lot of "magical" software advertised to boost the PC.
  • The first one is iolo System Mechanics that I owned and used on the virtualized system on the Mac but it is no utility to boost and on the PC seems to be outdated (facial look)
  • The second is AVG TuneUp : great improvement, system more responsive (in fact I am able to start in 9 seconds and open B4A very quickly). But its disadvantage is the "power management" : when the PC is run on batteries, the software put it in a "economy plan" and the PC is sloooowww. AVG did not reply to my support request asking how to disable that behavior.
  • The third is Virtual Technician from Emies : not fantastic at all. Changes a lot of settings but no improvement.
  • Then I have tried Windows Doctor : changes a lot of settings. Got a Windows update not listed in the Windows update software (???). Well not, impressive
  • And currently, I am running PowerSuite from Uniblue : seems to accelerate (a little) the system. But the system starting is very long...
Well, I knew nothing was perfect but I am really disappointed. Perhaps do you have any advice about a software I did missed ? Thanks
I always considered these so-called optimization programs as "marketing bullshit" and I'm surprised that one of them gave significant results on your PC.

You do not say in your messages if you have a 32 bits or 64 bits OS. Upgrading the RAM to 8 GB on a 32 bits OS is useless as the applications can only use 3GB (in fact, you're able to use all the installed RAM if you unlock the PAE management but not a lot of people are aware of it and know how to do so I suppose that's not the case here).

As suggested by others, a SSD is probably your better solution to improve the starting phase (according to the installed model, the difference can be huge). And format it with NTFS, not FAT32, so that you'll get rid of defragmentation problems (among other things).
 

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I'm surprised that one of them gave significant results on your PC
In fact, it has some "good" influence because it does unable some services at the computer's start (only)...
You do not say in your messages if you have a 32 bits or 64 bits OS
It is the 64 bts version
a SSD is probably your better solution to improve the starting phase
I just bought a Sandisk ReadyCache 32 GO (because available at the next store and for the cost) and will have to install it in parallel with the existing HD. They provide a software for that. It is efficient, I will go to buy a 1 To SSD one.

Thanks too for the advice about the formatting format :)
 

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Guess what : all my troubles came from the fact that the MacAfee uninstaller does not remove the software completely. If someone, one day, has the problem, go here. The company has published a dedicated tool. It's far better now :)
Do you have large projects (let's say over 10000 lines of code) ? Because on small configurations, I can testify that B4A is really slow and sometimes unusable (on the good side, all the waiting times and freezes that I encounter let me some time to post here :)). So if you plan to do big things with B4A, think big for your PC. At home, with my powerful configuration, I have no issue at all. But at work, on my two modest PC, I'm limited to medium projects (and I'm not allowed to replace parts to know where's the bottleneck).
 

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OK. I have done my tests using a SSD and it is quite good. But I won't be able to use the ReadyCache that I had bought because it is too thick to be put inside the optical bay (I have connected it using a SATA cable outside).
But they are still services I won't be able to stop or some software won't run correctly (made the test). In fact, I have seen some optimizers do their own image of the software and they launch that part of the software only when the software does use it (in fact, I have seen a folder with the names of the software and the .iso extension).

Another fact I have seen is this one : after 3 reboots and using the ReadyCache, the disk usage shuts down to an average of 40% instead of 100% (and about the same for the CPU usage) just after having started the computer.

Do you have large projects
Well, not all projects are large but I hate waiting long minutes before to be able to type some code using B4A and soon B4I.

So now, I am hesitating between a full 1TB SSD (Crucial M500 960GO) or an hybrid HD (WD Blak - 120 GB SSD - 1TB HD)... The last one is half the price. Crossing fingers and thinking more about....

(Apart : I have made some tests using a SDXC card and eboostr and will probably keep that solution too because it was a great way to have a separated big cache)
 

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So now, I am hesitating between a full 1TB SSD (Crucial M500 960GO) or an hybrid HD (WD Blak - 120 GB SSD - 1TB HD)... The last one is half the price. Crossing fingers and thinking more about....

Hybrids are a complete waste of money they are little more than a conventional HDD with a flash pen plugged in. My Work laptop came supplied with one and it performed worse than the machine it replaced even though it had a higher spec processor and a couple of Gig more RAM. Changing to a full SSD saw a tremendous jump in performance. I can only go off experience but I'd not choose to have a hybrid. Apparently they work by storing stuff to the NAND flash memory which is typically little more than 8GB. So when you load a program or file this is placed in the NAND memory so that the next time you load the program/file you see a speed improvement. Now I'm not one to open and close the same program several times and so I saw no benefit at all by having a hybrid drive. Thats my two cents on the subject.
 

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B4A doesn't need a SSD and even an XP notebook is fine...

More important: What about your test-environment?

Me: B4A -> Wifi -> real device

In debug mode ("not that big" projects) refreshing takes about 1 sec so I don't care.
 

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even an XP notebook is fine...
I have two PC under XP 32bits at work with 4 GB RAM (with different CPU, different brands) and B4A is horribly slow on both when I load a big project (no problem with small projects). I had to set the timeout to 120 sec to have a chance to compile and install the APK via USB. The intellisense needs often at least 10 seconds before displaying the completion list. I have many freezes. I have to wait at least 30 sec. before I can really use B4A after opening it (all variables are displayed in red in the meanwhile and the UI is not really responsive). I don't have these issues with my VB .Net IDE (or any other app). So a XP notebook is probably not enough powerful for a professional as lemonisdead, or any developper with a big project.
 
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